Nicholas

DNW last month can’t use photo bucket sorry

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Hhmm maybe AU 58 ....

Weak at centre on reverse else EF. Toning maybe unnatural

Yes slightly stylised horse design - so reproduction I’d say (by AC?)

Yes, on closer inspection is that chatter in front of the kings moustache?

🤔Just had a quick scan on heritage auctions searching GB Wreath Crowns - can’t find one circulation strike example with a struck up orb as I suspected. The proofs definitely better. NB this is just a rule of thumb guide!

with thanks! I’ve already sent Ian an email.

Hi collector comrades! Does anyone know of a dealer who will buy banknotes? Im looking to sell my mostly Scottish banknotes collection to buy more coins! Nick

A simple test (not 100% fool proof) is to look at the band around the orb - splitting the date - typically even the very best uncirculated circulation wreath crowns will not be fully struck up. The example shown is IMHO therefore is likely a proof specimen. Happy to be disproven - no probs

Ok one more.. the fantastical world of Queen Anne...

Yes I thought so too - when Boulton and Watts got busy..

Thanks Rob - so what year was the first large copper penny issued?

William III as Jupiter and James II as Phaeton - the Glorious Revolution Is this the first copper penny sized English coin? (OK it’s a medal..Eimer 312a)

Hard to say without seeing in person, but IMHO suspected chemical clean some time ago now retoned (?) else lower end mint state as you say

Ok ok milled and silver so here’s my Albert personal medal in silver - RRR

Hope this photo bucket link works This is my CH1 1633 cast medal. I’ve shifted away from currency coins to historical medals but still centred around the English Civil War...

Ok Im back - here’s a recent copper Ive acquired...Denton’s Swan Penny from Gahlin Collection (ex Dudman collection 1901) and 24 grams! sorry about the image framing😬

Both EF? Can't zoom in though so not sure. James shilling looks lovely - v. neatly struck. Some random thoughts on coin images: 0. I would like to see the 3rd side of each coin- the rim (no one does this yet..). I would also like a side-on view to see how flat the coin is - does it have and bends or waviness.. 1. Photos on any digital device enhance the coin's image because they glow from the electronically enhanced digital pixels. Really nothing like the coin in hand and generally much more exciting than in real life. I guess though it helps us all equally. 2. As each auction house has different image styles and definition detail, I sometimes consider this as a factor in which house to choose. Whether you believe this or not... 3. I have seen the same coin look completely different in 2 auction house catalogues that I know affected the final hammer price. Eg 1. CNG makes coins look better by stretching them laterally and wash out colour variances on silver coins and make gold coins look great! Eg 2. Spink have this strange false definition now made to their images - not very natural Eg 3. Baldwins just never give away too much by keeping the image pixels low - think soft focus Eg 4. Heritage have brutally strong close ups - can be dangerous especially on hammered coins. .. I could go on but I think I'm off thread already!

Agreed! Just laying out the land to a newbie! Ps. A dealer will out haggle a newbie by blinding them with science - some experience recommended.

Hhhmm coin dealers. Whilst providing good knowledge of coins (and of course I'm generalising) they need to earn a living so they will : 1. Talk down your coin to sell 2. Talk up their coins they are selling And are very good at doing it.

Ok, looking more closely .. this bun head type Victorian farthing is in reasonable condition say Good Very Fine (I'm usually a bit conservative) nice colour and a heavy strike that has caused slight undulations in planchet finish especially Reverse field it seems and high rims. There seems to be a couple of very tiny verdigris spots on Obverse, with a couple of small stains that don't detract and perhaps very light finger marks. Strike is very slightly off centre causing uneven beading on perimeter of coin. All in all though a nice example.

There she is, the female personification of Britain - symbol since roman times - Britannia holding shield and trident and wearing Corinthian helmet.. and showing her Naval strength. Queen Victoria would have loved this imagery.1894 in exergue

Yes Rob you make a good point about photography, flashes etc. - I have saying : Lies, damned lies and coin photography..

Welcome! Victorian florins, (halfcrowns) and crowns are very appealing large silver coins from an exciting era. I get it! There is plenty of really nice pieces on the market. Your example has been lightly polished - microscopic hairlines at certain angles will reveal this; it's also a bit bright for a coin that's 128 years old.. As rarity of this type of coin is not such an issue (except for a few rare years), look around for a piece that has less wear and original lustre - esp local dealer, but perhaps on the Internet (trusted sites only) and if you're feeling adventurous make a live bid on a coin auction site that occur at least once every month around the world.. I think you could do just a bit better for that money with more homework.. Let me know if you would like more details of where to look... Good luck Nick