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Let's See Your Toned English Milled Silver!
Sword replied to Paulus's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
The crown is remarkably free of any contact marks! -
My 1818 crown has the first 1 with very faint RH serif and the second 1 with no RH serif. CGS documented this as a "variety" but the reason is probably due to die filled and so it isn't really a variety. I have just noticed that the 1819 (9 over 8 ) crown also have the same features: weak RH serif with the first 1 and no RH serif with the second 1. I wonder if the die for my 1818 was later changed into the overdate? My 1818 is the first photo. The second is an example sold by LCA. The third is an example currently on sale on Chards.
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I agree. You need to ask yourself the reason for wanting to "restore" the coin. I cannot believe it make any financial sense to do so. The only reason I would consider spending money on it is if it has very strong sentimental value. Sentiment is priceless after all. You might even consider gluing it together yourself if you really want it in one piece and after you are satisfied that it doesn't have monetary value in its current state.
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LCA catalogue now online
Sword replied to Sword's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I am not certain what's happening. I click on their link in numisbid and it directed me to some Japanese site! It is not so easy for any auction house to get quality back once it has gone downhill... -
LCA catalogue now online
Sword replied to Sword's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
That must be a consequence of no live or even room bidding. -
Sept catalogue now online if interested.
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A possibility could be on how coins were minted during the past millennium. From hammered to screw press to modern times. Some museums have dies and reducing machines etc on display and might be happy for you to make a non commercial video if you ask them.
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It's a nice strategy to collect low mintage circulating coins at low cost. You can't lose and some of them (for whatever random reasons) will become sought after in the future.
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Very nice toning too!
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I am rather of the opinion that the lack of toning on the high points is not due to the removal of tone by slight friction. I think it is more likely that the coin has experienced light wear centuries ago resulting in the loss of lustre on the high points. The lustrous fields tones nicely over the centuries but the high points do not. Just a thought.
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Stuff to Make Us Laugh
Sword replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
Quoting the late John Smith, "He wasn't stabbed in the back, he shot himself in the foot!" -
Stuff to Make Us Laugh
Sword replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
"Prime minister asks Speaker to nominate 'acceptable' new PM". BBC news! And I thought it was impossible for Boris to develop a guilty conscience. Then I realised the headline was actually referring to the very serious situation in Sri Lanka. -
I agree that cabinet friction is just a diplomatic term for slight wear however caused. I think it is often used when you have a coin without many contact marks to make it more believable that it was caused by storage. The term "athlete's foot" sugars the pill for someone with a foot fungal infection. Most people with the condition are definitely not athletes!
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Stuff to Make Us Laugh
Sword replied to Madness's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/08/nadine-dorries-could-join-tory-leadership-race-16970021/ Seriously? Might be running for cover would make a lot more sense ... -
Indeed. Even a decent VG example of F169 is well over a thousand. But sometimes you see a worn rare silver variety with less than a handful of known examples selling for less than a hundred.
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I agree with you. But I think it is fair to say that bronze / copper collectors are more into rare varieties than silver collectors. A rare variety penny grading fine can worth many thousands, but the market is not quite the same for a rare variety silver in my view.
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If it is a choice between collecting high grades and rare varieties, then I would go for high grades.
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It is not a design fault or an error. The coin looks like it has taken serious abuse to cause the centre to drop out.
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I have never looked into this in detail but it is likely enough that different alloys were used for casings. Cupronickel coinage of 75% Cu and 25% Ni is already white in appearance. Hence 40% nickel would definitely not result in a copper colour shell which are common in WWI. Could it be possible that a certain amount of copper was mixed with the silver depending on the composition of the casings used to ensure some sort of consistency?
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But "sold" on eBay doesn't necessarily mean that money has changed hands.
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Davies (British Silver Coins since 1816) has a discussion on alloys. 10% Nickel and 40% copper was achieved by using discarded bullet envelopes. But this caused a number of problems such as higher fuel cost (due to higher melting point), discolouration, flaking etc
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It was "sold" but relisted. Then it is "sold" ...
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I was under the impression (wrongly it seems) that you have only started serious collecting relatively recently. The number of varieties in the series is so large that there will always be examples to chase.
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Sounds like your collection is really coming along Bruce. 😀