copper123

1797 pennies seem to have many countermarks

The key is the wear on Victoria's hair looks at least EF to me

Most coins at this time circulated at their melt value along with any remaining copper/ bronze left over from when the romans left . They probably circulated till melted down for other uses about the year 700 or so or untill decent quality silver pennies appeared

The patchy tone is deff not a plus could wipe £50 off the price easy

well I had been after a really nice one for ages and it came up on the bay for a half reasonable price so i treated myself The two rarest coins in the copper / bronze victorian period are in my opinion 1851 d over sideways d and 1862 fat 8 this ties with freeman 530 as well for rarity. I have a fat 8 but it only grades good fine

Heres my 1852 farthing it's that nice i suspect it will never be upgraded

1849 is a tough year esp in nice grade there again so are 1844, 1851 ,1852 and 1859 funny enough even though the last only circulated for 9 years.

Just love the cent

An unusual note to this is that he actually asked for a set of his own coinage and was refused it by the royal mint (though I am sure the rejust was actually refused by people right at the top ie the prime minister and royal family

low mintage as well

Not really a uk coin if from British Guinia

The odd few did circulate esp in the war years remember many people finances were turned upside down. Many of those that circulated have been melted down now as they were seen as useless as no-one wanted them in the fifties and sixties , not collectors anyway

perfect advice there are plenty out there to choose from

Quite true ,coins are often found badly clipped or with date or mintmark not clear - at least it has not suffered those fates Does look cleaned though , detector find?

one of the commoner coins of elizabeth

Never found much at car boots they have always been a dead loss, there again I do go to the birmingham coin fair regularly ..

I love a rummage in a 50p box , have picked out many a bargain , sadly few recently...

I would say around £2

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Not in the worst of grades as well , well done.Few bun penny's around these days. Eyesight improving , don't knock it ! I wish mine was

Why would they list it as cleaned if it wasn't ,does not make any sense if they have . Mind you slabbing companies often surprise from what I have seen on these forums

Americans love coins like these

It probably is but the national papers will never publicise this so it will always be a rare coin that nobody knows about