Paulus

My understanding is that the CGS grading system is by type, therefore there is no theoretical reason why a circulation non-proof coin could not achieve a grade of 100 ... this despite some anomalies in their descriptions for the grades, CGS 88 and above referencing FDC which normally refers to proof coins only. I have non-proof coins graded as MS70 by NGC ... True, I agree that in theory a non-proof can be graded 100. But I think the mint might not be bothered enough to use perfect flans and handle the resulting coins so carefully for ordinary coins. Yes, the existence of 'perfect' circulation coins is like the Dodo!

My understanding is that the CGS grading system is by type, therefore there is no theoretical reason why a circulation non-proof coin could not achieve a grade of 100 ... this despite some anomalies in their descriptions for the grades, CGS 88 and above referencing FDC which normally refers to proof coins only. I have non-proof coins graded as MS70 by NGC ...

This is a mini-rant at the over-grades sometimes given, please do not read on if your blood pressure is already too high. On what planet is this coin remotely MS (Mint State), let alone MS63? I would struggle with GVF (with problems) for this common date: It is a farthing listed on eBay.uk http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEORGE-II-1736-COPPER-FARTHING-LUSTROUS-TOP-GRADE-SLABBED-NGC-MS-63-/281584625878?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item418fc068d6 Can anyone explain this massive miss-grading (in my view), or is it just another case of buyer beware, buy the coin not the slab, TPG inconsistency/laziness/vested interest?? Makes a mockery of our beloved hobby

Good point

Pete's 1841 penny:

Some of their earlier photos are pretty dire (is that an oxymoron?) ... and is that a fingerprint in the reverse right field? It certainly has a high CGS grade and corresponding value:

Pete's 1874 H Penny

Whatever it is, it's completely horrible!

This is what I have been saying Oz, the pics can show/hide a multitude of sins, even without being doctored

It's a journey Hazelman, hang in there! Please take all the advice on here, it saves a lot of time and money!

Richard (that's Tom's real name, Richard2) is an undoubted expert on Charles I Tower shillings on here. I expect him to confirm that the 'bungled' spelling is just a double struck H, the kind of thing that occurs on very many of these coins, and is unlikely to have much affect on value.

I agree, and it will only cost you 10p for each find, with no postage! I have done this in the past with 50ps and £2s (but not looking for micro varieties, just commems)

Happy Birthdays!

A question for my learned friends on here. I recently picked up a nice example of this coin, which fills a long-standing gap in my collection. In the seller's description, and in other examples of threepences I have seen for sale of this date, they are advertised as Maundy. But, while I now have 2 very nice Maundy sets, I do not collect Maundy oddments, I bought it on the basis that it can't be - according to Spink, the first GIII Maundy set was 1763, so not only must my 1762 3d be a circulation coin, but it is also the only silver denomination to be issued in 1762, and the first for that reign. Is that right?

Could not have said it any better It would be interesting to know if this coin has been sold through London Coins, or one of their auctions

The one you posted the other day? Well there's cheap, and then there's CHEAP! Anyway, I don't believe you!

You're ignoring the significant numismatic value of these historic crowns - quite often I pay more than 10p for a Viccy florin (by way of example)

Why don't we all do it? Maybe we should - bit scared I guess!

I haven't tried this either, but, yes, Coinery (Stuart) can advise, and I am sure one of his pieces of advice would be to practice on a low value/low grade coin that you don't mind ruining

I'm surprised they graded it, I've had coins rejected with less 'damage' that that ...

The power of slabbing? link

How about this for BU http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1863-penny-BU-/331459258624?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item4d2c82e900 As in 'Bloody Uncollectable'?

It's not brown, it's blue! As usual, absolutely stunning Brandon!

Possibly - but they normally say 'Cleaned' if that is the reason for rejection!

I have now taken my own pics. The faint lines on the obverse are die flaws, not scratches.