Coinery

Fair enough!

TPGCs just ain't worth the conversation, as it always degenerates into the farce that slabbing is! Surely the type of buyer who is going to be buying a 1*+A is going to know for him/herself whether it is or not? Do you mind me asking your motive, Dave?

i think it's what the actual value of the coin is, which is ambiguous I know. They charge you according to the value of the coin, so buying a Una coin from an old dear for a tenner isn't going to wash with them. I agree, I found/find that part of the submission process a little odd...but then it would have to be, wouldn't it? It is a coin grading company, after all!

iFault! Love it! Your grammar is better than a good percentage of English folk's, ChKy!

You'll have to excuse my grammar! Why would my phone want to change 'have' to has, and 'moved' to move? Grrrr!

Ha, ha, ha!

You're a top man, ChKy, it's great having you here! I love a bit of single malt myself!

Certainly buying plenty of pieces, that's for certain! Do you buy most of your coins from Germany itself, or has the coins move out into neighbouring mainland Europe?

Goodness me, they knew how to engrave back then, did they not? That bust looks like it could speak to you!

I absolutely love seeing these milled coins with burrs on the rims! Lovely little beadie, Prax!

These are exactly the kind of issues I love working through! Not necessarily with C1 xii, but whatever my point of focus is at the time, it's the best bit about it!

Maybe something to add to a larger list for a future date? I like the 'ring' of Christies for some reason...even the mother-in-law could join in on a conversation about Christies, she wouldn't have a hope if it was Baldwin's!

Wow, it's growing and growing!

A 1948 Christies provenance would be rather prestigious, for a very prestigious coin! Good luck! Would the BM let you browse their copy in person?

I'd not heard aFDC banded around, but that is a bit of a mind-blower! A couple of your coins have popped up on here, that I wouldn't say were unfairly looked at, and certainly not unfairly reviewed. I'm guessing Dave's GVF is working from the numeric-style of grading that's used by the CGCs, though I would prefer to give a grade, and then mention flaws instead, of which there an excess of the OPs coin, to be fair? It's not like it's a blown-up 3d is it? I think part of the problem IS you've sold a good number, which sets you up as an example of an up-there dealer. This is why us minions are mildly confused by an aFDC grade from such a pillar of the coin selling circle? I still think the obverse looks cleaned too, though this could be the images, which someone else had remarked on?

Just out of interest, where's it for sale, Paulus?

Goodness, that's really surprised me to hear you say that, VS!

I'd personally leave that technique well alone to be honest!

Yes, I'd say a likely clean, and niggling obverse digs! Are you buying it, or looking?

I'd leave the Rose farthing as-is to be honest. The problem with heavily encrusted coins like these, is the encrustations have normally exchanged particles, atoms, somethingons, call them what you will, with the surface silver of the coin, so removing these surfaces normally leaves you with a pin-holey, wire-wormed, nasty piece of silver with slushy detail. As an experiment once, I dissolved a corroded C2 farthing, just to see how far I'd have to go to find copper. It turned out the copper had long since turned into a brittle reddish material. I've no idea what it was, but it's a lesson to demonstrate you may not find the original coin beneath the mess. I'd say for the coins you've posted that it's best to stick with a pick and a soak...there's not an unblemished flan lurking beneath.

Sorry, there ARE pictures!

Mark, have you tried this before? One thing you won't have left is toning! I used to use this method for bulk cleaning necklaces and jewellery. It comes up like new, not necessarily what you'd want from a hammered coin?But you are absolutely right in questioning whether the method is controlled, and what defines a clean. Some hammered are so knackered that a wire brush would enhance their value, if only to determine the monarch, others would be devalued by the slightest buff. We could really do with pictures?

You would definitely do no harm with a light wash! If more is needed, you'd do no harm with a couple of weeks' soak in olive oil, and a careful pick/wipe with cocktailstick/cottonbud. As a general degreaser, junk remover, you could do worse than acetone and cotton bud (pure acetone, not the nail-varnish remover that contains conditioners which leave 'hues' and a 'pretty' smell on the coin). What kind of 'clean' are we talking? Can you show us some pictures? Would make a massive difference to the approach.

I've not studied the full thread, but this isn't surely a CGS bust confusion, surely? Surely not?