Coinery

Isn't EVERYTHING from the Bedale Hoard nowadays?

Nooooooo!

Milled coins just ain't what they used to be? They just got a whole lot better!

Well, while Dave's shilling is still hot, I thought I'd post this random thing. I while back, Rob got into talking about the re-use of old die stock/bar, and proposed that often a piece of bar/stock would be filed off and reused to sink a new die. He mentioned he'd coins where different legends could be seen below (Charles Halfcrowns I think it was?). Anyway, I've since found my own examples of this phenomenon, so it's a practice that's clear in my mind now too! So, whilst I was staring at Dave's proposed R/B James shilling, this jumped out at me! Now, it's pure speculation, but thought it worthy of putting up here, if only to highlight the phenomenon, and have us looking a little more intently at the numismatic potential of such finds. Incidentally, the only REGINA shillings of Elizabeth were the Early ones, which of course were also lis-marked shillings (at least a reasonable percentage were). I doubt we can take it much further than speculation, unless some of the other marks favour an underlying Elizabeth shilling... ? something diagonal through the bottom loop of the B in BRI? ? Something between the R+I of BRI? ? Something diagonal between the O+B of IACOBVS? (this would be especially interesting) So, for a bit of fun, here you go...

Goodness me! Definitely blurs the boundaries! I feel so utterly ashamed of my membership within the human race! http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05x30lb/1945-the-savage-peace

They certainly look convincing side by side! What's really needed now is a super-macro image of it to really take a proper look? Is that a raised bulge above the top bar of the F or an optical illusion?

However, looking at the bulge above the top bar of the F could also point at die-damage, much like the recently debated open/closed mouth horse on the reverse of the veiled-head crowns? ?

Prelimenarily looking at the spacings above the F I'd say the two examples are likely from different dies! That being said, I think it would be a struggle to deny you an underlying letter, which is likely a P to be fair?

Saxby is just the most hilarious trader out there!

You may have Hit the nail on the Head Stewie (average) it seems Charles I collectors may also be seeking asthetically pleasing coins also. If i were to want a Lizzie halfcrown for example there's plenty of worn ones out there for several hundred, but why settle for that when you'll only try and upgrade eventually?Ah, yes, but when you are dedicatedly collecting a very specific series, where parts of that series are only existing in single figures, it just won't do not to have an example. Especially of a variety rare enough to have attracted the attention of some very prominent collectors!I see your Chas collecting in a different way to TGs, as you appear to me to be collecting across a very wide parameter, and probably have no intention of collecting an example of every Sharp number? Whereas TG I see as someone committed to that goal, which would mean he has to occasionally trade eye-appeal for rarity to achieve that aim? There would be a few examples of this in Liz too, particularly with some of the early-bust shillings, but fortunately there is plenty of other material to collect in the meantime. As a disclaimer, I must add that I have noticed TG change direction slightly, and more recently focus his attention upon upgrades ahead of rarity. Maybe this is happening across all areas, which is why the OP coin is a sobering warning for stock buyers and/or investors? I'm still surprised there isn't a completionist out there who wants it, though?

Good point about slabbing and grandfathers, Dave! Missed that one!

Just had a thought! For someone who doesn't even mention NGC, where did he get his image from? It doesn't look like your average 'prop it up against the sauce-pot and snap it with your phone' kind of image?

Feedback of 1, so not a bid for the faint-hearted I guess! Anyone checked it out on NGC to see whether it's a genuine 'picture' at least? I'd want to have it agreed that I could pay cash and pick it up from his house I think?

All that aside, I'm still staggered to find a shilling of that heritage and rarity, just sitting around at £160! I'm not a big admirer of the mostly only average looking C1 shillings, but for a fan of the series it would seem a must-have to me? I'm genuinely surprised!

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C'mon then Paulus!

That sounded SO sucky, after I reread it, that I'd better blow you a big x to get it back in context!

You only own the whole great monster that the PDF is, what chance have you got? Don't envy the management of such a site, but I'm eternally grateful that you do!

'Choice uncirculated' are the words he uses! Now I think it probably is quite a high grade, especially when looking at the rims but, that ain't no shimmering lustred tone to support the grade, that's a manky old lustre-less tone, with verd and ugliness abounding! Not a coin being sold by an honourable man, no doubt about that!

Can anybody help me out with just 1 capsules, of the type in the image below? There are much chunkier than the other types I've seen, and appear to be made from some high-quality perspex/resin? It's the kind that the commemorative coins come in. If fact it's to replace a cracked holder from a set I've just sold, and don't really want to buy a box, as I hope never to see a comm. coin again in my life! :-) Size is 34mm total diameter, with a 28mm inner capacity. If anyone has an odd one lying around I'd be very grateful. Many thanks, Stuart, Stewie, Stu, Coinery, Me! Edit: BOLD - what the iFCUK is going on?

Puts a smile on the ole kisser, don't it just?

Thanks to Rob, Davies is bought, paid for and in the mail. You won't regret it! So much better than ESC for the period it covers!

Davies is excellent, Jag!

There's Bob Hope and... Shocking!