Coinery

Mayday, Mayday!

Hmmmm??? Fortunately I can console myself that we are a diverse body of peoples walking this planet. Also, just a small clarification from me, I wasn’t talking about ‘sides’ seeking glory, I was thinking more of individual ambition. 😊

Another VERY relevant set of stamps planned for next spring!

Forgetting democracy for a moment, it wasn’t something “I” applied for, and neither did nearly every other man/woman you will pass on the street. If you make a charge on the battlefield and subsequently find obliteration faces you, the sensible thing is not to go blindly on when you could retreat and fight another day! You have to remember this vote got through on the back of a red bus and a number of glory worshipers seeking to take advantage by lies. If they weren’t lies, and they believed it was all true, it equally demonstrates the level of ignorance these political experts/leaders are capable of! It was the lies that won the votes, nothing else.

An example of your coin, @Rob, but sadly nothing to shed new light on it. I’m not convinced by the evidence of this thread, and will find an answer to it one day.

Jerry, I’d give your fantasy coin NVF, maybe more, but agree with the others that the donor coin is near fine at best. It’s tricky isn’t it with hammereds, you have to take them as a whole. A great many can have one or two as-struck devices, yet are worn everywhere else. This can be due to a slight curvature in the flan that protects a small part of the design, or a heavy strike to one edge of the coin that fills up the die, creating a nice chunky cross to protect the surrounding devices, whilst the weaker, less-filled, areas quickly wear away. The reasons are as many as the coins. The winner for hammered is eye-appeal every time! As you know, an ugly VF coin will not be worth more than a pretty, nicely struck, GF or NVF. So for me grade has never been a big factor in judging hammered coins, you’ve either got an eye for a quality coin or you haven’t. I do recall you having an eye! 👍

Do you have an image of that reverse handy, Dave, your reverse E (the die match without the lion)? What’s on the obverse of it?

So, did we find a pm rose obverse die to match yours? I lost the thread a bit.

Did we look at this on another thread at some point?

We have, I thought I recognised the coin. I have a day of leisure tomorrow, so will did out my images, engage my brain, and see what I can match up for discussion. Ah, the life of a numismatist...son to collect at 20:30 from scouts, wife to feed when she gets in from a late shift around 21:00 (nursing, Peter), and then the fire to sort out after that!

“Rob's Sun coin shows the same sort of 'pared down' artistry.” Have to agree with that, TG, not dissimilar; the jawline and moustache!

It would definitely be described as a square flan, though, tooling or not! 👍

Incuse beard on cheek the big stand out for me? It’s clearly a coarse bust, so I make this judgment only on face value, and based only upon seeing this one coin in isolation. If that beard is standard on other busts of that type, then it’s just a coarse bust punch and nothing more...however...

I’ve just taken a look...in the absence of other dies to compare, my first instinct would be the same.

Totally get where you are coming from as a writer wishing to surround himself with interesting objet d’art to keep it ‘real.’ There is clearly no better item to inspire and pinpoint a definite place in time than a coin! Rob (above) is a coin dealer and likely has, or could probably source, all the ‘genuine’ items you require! Good luck with the book!

Not my territory...also, if you don’t know it, I don’t know it, but I hope you get an answer soon!

Just to kick things off, 1 and 2 are Edward III florin pennies, coin 3 is Edward I Class 9 with star on chest (all 3 are London), and coin 4 is Edward III minted in York.

Thanks, Rob, it would be an interesting coin to view

Don’t suppose you’ve got an image handy of the original have you?

Definitely one of the better copies out there. Quite nice to have the original coin. I stupidly missed out on an opportunity to own the original Elizabeth groat that we often see with the distinctive flawed crown.

I sold my Peck, Rob, but very interesting bit of detective work. Love the colour of @Michael-Roo‘s token 👍

And for just under £500 you can buy a ‘3/16’ quarter noble and also a James Bond bank note, ending 007, for £200.

This made me smile...a rather expensive (£150) ‘error’ penny. The error? Double struck! 232915135352