Coinery

Blimey, TPGC's what? Yes, what's happened Stuart? Or have you, like me, just finished reading all the posts in this thread?! On the head, Paulus! Right on the head! Edit: it really needs its own dedicated forum page, it's such a popular debate! It would would probably get the google number 1 slot for search terms 'CGS' NGC' PCGS' ahead of the slabbing companies themselves, such is the volume of material in this area! Just sayin'! I am mostly finished with the subject myself, I have to say!

Sorry, but yes, a certain counterfeit coin! Just out of interest, what makes you say half-sov? It looks more HC in design?

I've got a little bit of unafforded auction fever coming up!

The S3866A is £350 in F, £750 in VF, £1100 in EF. No price given for UNCThat looks to be the same as the 2013 SPINKS price. Bentley collection in EF is extremely rare. I haven't looked to see if Marsh has it listed. Nice coin. I collect the series, all mints and varieties. Wish I had one of those. As I don't really collect sovereigns, I'd consider a trade for an interesting penny! Would it come with the curly hair?

They wouldn't do something like that, surely, Dave?

I read the first line about "shamelessly..." and that was enough, no need to waste any more energy on the rest! My God, we'll be burning witches and hanging the blacks in no time! I'm wholly disgusted to be a part of a society that still allows such shameless disgrace in politics...or any area of our lives! Thanks for the heads-up on UKIP! If a man can remain in ANY party following such a statement, it's not, or ever will be, a party for me!

You were very lucky with that one, Peter...that's cheaply your's on account of my credit card expiry date expiring with auction sniper at a time I only had my phone with me, and not the opportunity to bid live!

Blimey, TPGC's!

Staggering quality, jaggy, I bow down! Wonderful coin!

I've never seen that before, how can eBay collect revenue for Customs and Excise, unbelievable! They've got their finger in every pie, you've got to take your hat off to them in some bitter way or other! I'm surprised Customs' haven't cottoned onto that before! Spoils it all! Postage fees, custom fees, Paypal fees, eBay fees...eBay's cut, now to likely include customs' collection charges, will soon equal that of the seller's!

Take it steady out there, chaps! Many happy returns!

Depends on your definition! Remember, I've never spent 4 figures yet on any single coin, though that (almost) tempts me to. Without the buyer's commission, that was only 3 figures Blimey, that's got to be way up there as a top buy? I'd always be able to find the money somewhere, if something that pretty came along within my field of interest! One extra shift per week for the wife, for a month...easy! She'd understand????

What I find unbelievable is that there must have been a bod somewhere who really thought that that Britannia fluesy (no idea quite how that should be spelled?) could really go out as a reverse! There would likely have been an unwanted baby boom, sticking such reverses into the pockets of gentlemen? Top of the range though, AC!

Yarp!

I think the Russian's have got you again, Chris!

Not bad, not bad at all! Copper is definitely king in my book!

Having a theatre/recovery background, I can clearly see how key-hole surgery would be appropriate in some cases? I guess this will no doubt be an offered service one day; a microscopic hole and cannula application of chemical therapy to any and all re-submitted coins affected by contaminants!

I so look forward to saving all my findings in that way, I have already lost substantial and personally important coin data from lack of time and organisation...I bow down, Peck!

I'm not sure if you've misunderstood my point VC, I'm not talking about oxidation in the common sense but, rather, how can it be determined that "verd" is stable just from looking at it?'Bubbling' starts somewhere, of course, but it has a beginning! How is it determined, as BRG has confidently done, that the process has ended? This is what I'm interested in! I don't believe the green spots are Verdigris at all. Thus, I don't believe they are active in that sense. True verdigris is a reaction of acetic acid with copper, and has a certain "bubbly" look to it as VS described. These few tiny green spots simply don't appear as such, and have no signs of continued reaction with the surface metal (e.g., the lustre is still visible microscopically underneath the translucent green spots). Oh, right, that makes sense, if you don't believe it to be verdigris! Claiming stable verdigris under magnification is altogether a different animal! It might just wipe off with a bit of acetone?

I'm not sure if you've misunderstood my point VC, I'm not talking about oxidation in the common sense but, rather, how can it be determined that "verd" is stable just from looking at it?'Bubbling' starts somewhere, of course, but it has a beginning! How is it determined, as BRG has confidently done, that the process has ended? This is what I'm interested in!

Just out of interest, how do you determine verd activity at magnification? Verdigris usually accumulates at the surface and can be seen "eating" into the coin's surface. These small green spots are translucent, and the coin's lustre can be seen beneath them. No signs of "active" acidic verd. It's the term "active" that most interests me! How do you determine that it's stable and not active?

Not really my area but, you're obviously serious, and that is a most welcome quality on here...welcome aboard, douna!

Just out of interest, how do you determine verd activity at magnification?

Ps the forum still isn't displaying correctly on safari, and I don't have edit buttons! Other safari accessed forums using the same software are working fine!

Ps the forum still isn't displaying correctly on safari, and I don't have edit buttons!