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The 1878-CC MS62 Book $300.00 Strong Obv (Hair above ear strong), Weaker Rev (Breast feathers are weak), weaker color... The 1881-S MS-64 Book $95.00 Strong Obv. and Rev. Nicer Fields... Those are redbook values, they can usually be bought for less (check eBay!). Just my humble opinion...

Good find with the "CC" Dave!

Why shouldn't Americans call their cents pennies? Where I come from right up until decimalisation, five shillings was always known as a dollar. I am sure some American collectors will fill you in (!) but I have a feeling that there is some history behind the American 'penny'. Here in the U.S. the cents are called both cents and pennies, why I don't know, but it has always been that way. All coin books and albums use the name cents, but if you and another person have a roll of cents, they are generally referred to as a roll of pennies. Lincoln pennies, indian head pennies, big (large) penny, etc. I really never noticed the difference until I started collecting British coins about 60 years ago, that I noticed the English called their coins pennies, but never cents. So maybe its has something to do with the large influence, over time, the British heritage of so many Americans decided the cent should also be considered a penny, as well as the Americanized name...cent! BTW...our cent has always been a lesser value than the British penny!

Absolutely! Are Barber coins much rarer? Because I find that an acceptable design, but relative to the Morgans see very few examples. Tom, Morgan Dollars are probably the most popular coins in America...while Barbers (all types) are not so well liked, because of their design.

Mark Rasmussen? Who is MP?

Nick What is the going price, in Australia, for a 1930 Penny in VF or better? That is the only Aussie Penny I have never owned.

Nice Dave!

The Heritage business alone makes NGC more prestigeous, and really helps to stimulate there profits. I personally like NGC better than any of the other TPG's, here in the USA. With that said, all of the USA graders need to buy one of David's books on grading, as they still don't have it right!

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The coin slabbing business is only one part of this company's makeup. They are in all types of collecting, publishing, etc...so they have a broad portfolio of business strategies, that do not depend on slabbing. With that said, I don't care for them as a slabbing company, after the issue that was brought up on this Forum a few years ago, and their complete lack of concern for the guaranteeing of the PCGS slabbed Mule for sale at the time. Just MHO!

It's really strange, the operating income is up 116%, yet their stock is going sideways! It looks like there are some big bonuses being paid, with little regard for the shareholders!

That doesn't surprise me, after talking to them! I also sent a email about the images. I'll let you know if I get a reply.... Here is my reply from the auction house. Dear Mr Crawford We are sorry you are having trouble seeing the coins in detail. Unfortunately, our website can only deal with images up to a certain size. I would be happy to send you the original images we have which will be a higher resolution, or alternatively one of my colleague would be happy to give you a condition report over the phone. Kind Regards Anna -----Original Message----- From: Bob Crawford [mailto:RLC35@aol.com] Sent: 06 February 2014 17:01 To: general@tcag.co.uk Subject: February 11 Auction (Coins) Submitted on 06/02/2014 - 5:00pm Submitted by anonymous user: [68.58.135.72] Submitted values are: Name: Bob Crawford Email: RLC35@aol.com Subject: February 11 Auction (Coins) Image attachment: Message: Sirs, Your coin pictures are so small they cannot help in determining the condition of the coins to be sold. The pictures should have some "enlarge" feature to be helpful. I am wanting to bid on some of the coins, but can't due to this issue. A fellow collector sent for better pictures of the coins, but was sent illustrations that were even worse than the ones you have on the auction site. Please correct this issue, or you are pushing away a large segment of the potential bidding pool. Regards, Bob Crawford, ANA# 3144974.

That doesn't surprise me, after talking to them! I also sent a email about the images. I'll let you know if I get a reply....

Interesting reading Accum...thanks for posting!

That coin is the 2013 Birth of Prince George proof 5 pound. That coin cost $130 at issue, plus $30-40 for submission/grading. While I still don't think it's worth the $329 asking price, it's a far cry from $450 for a coin that can be had for $30. Also, that "import fees" part of eBay is a complete farce. The shipping in the US is free from that seller, and eBay is likely making a killing on these types of coins when they add this "import charge" to them. This (among other reasons) is why I never sell on eBay outside the 50 US states. You are correct, i concede that one, i must get Glasses. On the Import tax subject, apparently the seller must oot into it, but i said before that ebay or someone is making Profit from this practise and really something should be done about it because they are asking for far more money in Import tax than the Import tax that would be due The other problem about it is that it's my opinion that many US sellers quite like it because it deters oversea bids. That's not true in my opinion. There are many sellers from the USA who have bidders overseas. Particularly the Asian market has a lot of high roller bidders. Several of the high-volume high-end USA dealers were NOT happy about the eBay shenanigans regarding import fees. Alas, eBay doesn't give a damn what sellers or buyers want so long as they get their (automatic) slice of the pie. Getting around eBay's import fees is easy, just don't sign up for their shipping option, and do your own shipping. With Endicia you can have your Post Office in your home, and eBay is not involved in International shipment whats-so-ever! The Postman will even pick up your parcels and letters, from your home, for free!

That coin is the 2013 Birth of Prince George proof 5 pound. That coin cost $130 at issue, plus $30-40 for submission/grading. While I still don't think it's worth the $329 asking price, it's a far cry from $450 for a coin that can be had for $30. Also, that "import fees" part of eBay is a complete farce. The shipping in the US is free from that seller, and eBay is likely making a killing on these types of coins when they add this "import charge" to them. This (among other reasons) is why I never sell on eBay outside the 50 US states. 51, surely, or have we left? If we have, someone better tell Starbucks, McDonalds, and Subway I don't get whatever joke you're trying to make. I suspect Peck is satirically referring to the UK as the 51st state ... Puerto Rico already has first dibbs on the 51st state! LOL!

Acc. I started a couple of them for you! LOL! Shiller! Ha,Ha....not quite Paulus. Anything I bid on, I will buy, if it doesn't go viral on me! LOL!

Acc. I started a couple of them for you! LOL!

Or is it a token for a mineral Bath? I can't find anything on it either. Given the remit includes the, I can see it being anything to do with the baths even though they are less than 100yds away. The latter were frequented by the well to do of Georgian society and were unlikely to be affected by the lower classes I guess I missed the part on the coin that says anything about "suppression of vagrants, street beggars and imposters." Mineral baths have long been advertised to relieve occasional distress though. LOL!

Or is it a token for a mineral Bath? I can't find anything on it either.

I'm sure Dave will jump on that one with both feet! Ha,Ha!

Another word on the easy solution that may not be the best solution. Coinmanage is Canadian not American, and it does have British coins. The problem with Coinmanage is that their British listings are not complete. For example some of the sovereigns that have both a shield back and St. George reverse for a given year only has one reverse type to choose from for a that year. This is a very small number of years, however - most have the option for either shield back or St. George. Coinmanage allows you to print a record including the information it pulls that you have entered along with either a photograph of your coin or a standard image that is contained in the database. I'm personally using Coinmanage because I wanted to save time and effort. Trade-offs Just for the record...Canadians are Americans also...just like the people from the United States...North Americans! Ha,Ha!

I think you are right Rob...it probably is a cost code. The letter "x" in most codes means "0", the balance would depend on the code itself. If the first word of the code is "MUSIC", then the cost of the coin would be $1.20 (pounds). You've completely lost me there Bob, on several counts! Sounds extremely cryptic! I guess the seller doesn't want the buyer to be able to work out what he paid for it? Sorry Paulus, Ha,Ha! Generally the seller does code the buying price of a coin, and note it somewhere on the coin holder. In this way he can know what he has in a coin when he prepares it for sale (or has an opportunity to sell it). The codIng might go something like this in a typical code....The code might be..."Music Taker", with each letter becoming a code for specific number. Thus M would be 1...U would be 2...S would be 3, right up to R which would be 0. (1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0 = M-U-S-I-C-T-A-K-E-R). You are correct in that most people will not advise the client what they have invested in a coin. Is it any clearer? In this example "MUX" would be $1.20 (pounds)...M=1...U=2...X=0 (X can be a zero, the same as the R in the above code). I learned this technique from the late Mr Ashley Hutchings in Uxbridge many years ago - I used to buy from him regularly (only tin-pot stuff mostly) and once asked him about the strange lettering on his flips. And so I developed my own cryptic buying code, but I can assure you - neither Mr Hutchings nor myself used an X for 0. It's way too obvious. Over the years one of the most popular codes was "Grand Hotel"...you can still find some people who use this code!

I think you are right Rob...it probably is a cost code. The letter "x" in most codes means "0", the balance would depend on the code itself. If the first word of the code is "MUSIC", then the cost of the coin would be $1.20 (pounds). You've completely lost me there Bob, on several counts! Sounds extremely cryptic! I guess the seller doesn't want the buyer to be able to work out what he paid for it? Sorry Paulus, Ha,Ha! Generally the seller does code the buying price of a coin, and note it somewhere on the coin holder. In this way he can know what he has in a coin when he prepares it for sale (or has an opportunity to sell it). The codIng might go something like this in a typical code....The code might be..."Music Taker", with each letter becoming a code for specific number. Thus M would be 1...U would be 2...S would be 3, right up to R which would be 0. (1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0 = M-U-S-I-C-T-A-K-E-R). You are correct in that most people will not advise the client what they have invested in a coin. Is it any clearer? In this example "MUX" would be $1.20 (pounds)...M=1...U=2...X=0 (X can be a zero, the same as the R in the above code).

I think you are right Rob...it probably is a cost code. The letter "x" in most codes means "0", the balance would depend on the code itself. If the first word of the code is "MUSIC", then the cost of the coin would be $1.20 (pounds).