Peckris

Thanks for the Ripples link - that's a definite MacTube download! (Oops, I never said that* ). Always been one of my favourite tracks. 'Trick Of The Tail' comes pretty close to 'Selling England By The Pound' in my personal Genesis pantheon. We prided ourselves on 'discovering' Genesis when at Uni, when they were virtually unknown before 'Foxtrot'. I saw them 3 or 4 times back then. One of them you wouldn't believe - it was AFTER Foxtrot was released but they obviously had to fulfil a booking made before then : they were second on the bill to Medicine Head (no, really!) in a University hall of residence 'bop' where there was no proper stage, just a temporary structure of wooden blocks. Yet professional to the end, they did the full show - Gabriel with his flower head, then the long red dress with fox head. All I can say is 'Wow, just to be there. Did it really happen?' http://donignacio.com/art/genesispic.jpg *sadly, he seems to have protected it from download happily, someone else has the same version on YouTube

Hello chky,I have been on this form for some time and English is my mother toungue.....I still have no idea how to put pictures up on this site...it seems you need to be a techie..... Not at all. This picture took me 5 clicks, all of them within this reply. Couldn't be easier.

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It is certainly possible to post pictures directly here - go to the Beginners forum and there is a 'pinned' topic at the top explaining how to do it.

"This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing." Perhaps there was a stain in it somewhere Euwww!

"This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing." What, you mean the mankini WASN'T included after all?

I'll second that.

I know - I raised the same thing just after the new forum launched! I was most indignant that it was on my profile but no-one else's Turns out that we can each only see it on our own profile. Apparently we can be warned (by Chris? ) for minor transgressions.. Presumably they are like a yellow card - accumulate too many and you get sent off - which begs the question, why are Dave and I still here? lol !!! ~ this forum is actually very civilized compared to most. Ya think so? Just wait and see...

I know - I raised the same thing just after the new forum launched! I was most indignant that it was on my profile but no-one else's Turns out that we can each only see it on our own profile. Apparently we can be warned (by Chris? ) for minor transgressions.. Presumably they are like a yellow card - accumulate too many and you get sent off - which begs the question, why are Dave and I still here?

I think these two are a fair enough example of inconsistency 3711 and 12559. I don't mind the slabs,however I think I would be the same,if the slab costs more than the coin,it would probably be as nice in a shop bought holder,and the money could go on the next new addition. Very good example, to suggest that 3711 is a 78 is a little silly (from the photos) and it is clearly inferior to 12559 although both are graded the same by CGS. There may well be significant photographic differences that need to be taken into account, but here are the reverses for ease of comparison: 3711: 12559: It is almost as if in the early days they were learning to grade like a novice collector, and hadn't yet acquired a copy of 'The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins' ! [rant] Bloody Photobucket! The pictures are the same size as here and despite the presence of a magnifying glass with a + inside, there's no way to zoom in. That's why I hate it so much, it's SO counter-intuitive to use. [/rant] Anyway, I'm not so sure the first is "clearly inferior" to the second? The attractive toning serves to emphasize any slight rubbing that may be present, while the untoned example conceals it. But just looking at two places : St George's right pec, and the dragon's haunch, I can see what seems to be slight flattening on the second which isn't present on the first. So I'd conclude that grading those two isn't as easy a comparison as you might think. (And even though I can't zoom in on the pictures, they are already at least twice lifesize).

What are those worth nowadays compared to the kosher one?

You shouldn't joke, Peck...what will happen to us all when the Chinese buy a coin from the UK to cast the latest mould for a new fake!Edit: which of course was a fake to begin with! (Though you're quite right - I shouldn't joke...)

To be honest, the only one worth slabbing is the Viccy halfcrown (the 1952 sixpence at a pinch if it was perfect). The others are perfectly collectable but I'd avoid paying through the nose for slabbing them.

I remember that advert!!

I have some spare blue fivers (1960s) which I bought as a bulk lot in Taunton a few years back? They cost me little more than £5 each, but nobody seemed to notice that there was a replacement note among them... Needless to say, THAT one isn't on offer!

On the other hand, if you bought fake fakes from China, you could be assured of genuine coins?

It's a beautifully enamelled reverse, but the obverse is totally ruined by brooching. Some people have more money than sense.

The danger of purchasing bread and butter is that it might not sell, then you get depressed just looking at it. It isn't only the top end where people are selective. Some of the real dross is unmarketable to anybody, such as a fine or a bit better 20th century piece or a common date bun head which is well nigh impossible to dispose of other than at the scrapyard. It is often more cost effective to melt silver that is post 1816 in low grade than it is to try to sell it - rare pieces excepted, but also very difficult to pick up things at less than scrap value in order to make a profit.Bread and butter coins for me are the coins which DO sell, mostly because they have a wider audience, and are sought after by the mainstream of collectors, rather than a high-end piece at the very top of its price range.Of course, Rob's right when he says that you have to be selective! I'd say that's true whether you are spending a fiver on a 1930 penny, or buying a York HC. It is really hard to purchase saleable/popular coins for resale, but few could afford the luxury pieces without getting this formula right! Fortunately, it's still possible to do! Happy days! Admittedly my dealing was very low key stuff - stack 'em high, sell 'em cheap - but one thing I did learn : there is an enthusiastic market at the lower end. Admittedly not for 1890-92 buns in F, but certainly for 1864 pennies, 1904 halfcrowns, etc, in VG+ there were plenty of buyers. At least there were in the 90s, but eBay may have changed that. And there were quite often bulk lots where I could filch out the best stuff for my own collection and sell the rest.

Creative writing at its best! Jane Austen would be proud. "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a large fortune, must do his shopping in Selfridges".

Better than Gibbon Spink though

And all while punk was having its day in the sun gutter, too! Actually, I think Then There Were Three is a much maligned album containing some great songs. Both of those albums are a bit late for my taste. "Nursery Cryme" and "Selling England by the Pound" are my two favourites. Selling England... is arguably my favourite Genesis album of all, and unarguably a classic. I can always listen to 'Firth of Fifth'. The Cinema Show is a track I never tire of listening to. That would be my second favourite - gorgeous synth. Especially the way it segues into Aisle Of Plenty with all those painful supermarket name puns: "Easy love, there's a safe way home Thankful for her fine fair discount, Tess Co-operates" For some reason, after listening to that, I always get the number 17 1/2 stuck in my mind

I'd agree with Derek, except about the 1922 pennies. There's one mega-rare variety but the chances of you having one of those is about equal to Accrington Stanley winning the League. Less.

And all while punk was having its day in the sun gutter, too! Actually, I think Then There Were Three is a much maligned album containing some great songs. Both of those albums are a bit late for my taste. "Nursery Cryme" and "Selling England by the Pound" are my two favourites. Selling England... is arguably my favourite Genesis album of all, and unarguably a classic. I can always listen to 'Firth of Fifth'.

My gut feeling is that these are probably "average circulated", i.e. having quite a bit of wear? In which case you should know that any silver coin pre-1947 contains 50% silver and has a bullion value that (for example on eBay) draws in the crowds, especially if you sell all the silver as a bulk lot and advertise it as pre-47. Pre-1920 is sterling silver and worth twice as much. Having said all that, coins in high grade (GV in EF or better, GVI and QEII in AUNC minimum) do fetch higher values. In particular, many QEII cupro-nickel halfcrowns and florins and a few shillings, from the 1950s in genuinely UNCirculated condition, can fetch surprising amounts even though they don't contain silver. Condition is everything so it would repay you to invest a few £ in the Grading British Coins book (banner advert, above). Then you can make a more realistic assessment of what you've got. I repeat, condition is everything with coins, so though I suspect these are only average condition (i.e. quite a lot of wear), you need to find out. It might even be worth taking a few pictures of what you think are better examples and posting them here. Scarcer dates : 1925 halfcrowns and florins 1930 halfcrowns 1932 florins 1946, 1949, (1950, 1951) brass threepences 1952 sixpence