Peckris

Well, if she did happen to be browsing the boards wondering whether to post, we could assure her of a friendly welcome Whilst on the 1933 penny, I came across this; http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100531081627AAd4cTb Thing with the 1933, is that it has achieved the same status as UFO's, they may well exist, who knows, but absolutely no-one is going to believe it, even if you park one on their lawn. Same with the penny -that there are 7 has become a 'fact' I can only assume it may be another urban myth.... however I might as well tell it as I don’t think many people have heard this one. I cannot remember in full so please take it with a pinch of salt if I get some of it wrong... A firm was producing an advertisement for one of their products. The ad was illustrating something along the lines of, 'you can buy all of this for just 4d' and they pictured four separate pennies with the product. As soon as the ad was published in the newspaper (some time in the late 1930s) thousands if not millions of people phoned the company up asking for the four pennies from the picture as one of them was a 1933 penny. Clever people obviously thought it was a deliberate marketing device, however the company followed up in the paper shortly after that the pennies were genuinely not supposed to be a part of the marketing, apparently one of the guys doing the photo for the ad just pulled four pennies out of his wallet without taking any notice of them and done the picture. Of course by the time it was published and people were phoning in about it he had spent the pennies. Has definite tones of urban myth! Similar to the one that claims The Daily Mail is a newspaper

This is true. The whole collection is a single item in many instances. The important thing is to keep receipts as this is the only evidence you will have that you paid good money to acquire something. It is also worth checking whether the collection is insured on a cost basis or current valuation. If the latter, you will need to have a regular reappraisal of value by a third party in writing. Many non-specialist insurers will pay a % of Spink value (typically 66%) : if you have pictures of anything that has any value (over £10?) that helps enormously.

Doubtful if anyone would try to fake modern bornze, not even in 1971. Sounds like someone just decided to have some destructive fun with it :-)

Ok. If it's lustrous, then it could be perfectly normal. If dull in appearance but clean, then it sounds like classic dipping.

Oh it was in a newspaper as well as in The Daily Mail? Just a library picture Be interesting to know which particular example the photo was of.

I can't decide if the portrait is meant to be Henry VIII or Prince Charles!! I was wondering, could it be a 'Mary Rose' souvenir type of thing? It looks modern to me.

I believe the seller may be wrong. "Very bright" usually means polished (is it highly reflective?) A coin that is briefly dipped, simply loses its toning which may be anything from desirable blue or coloured to undesirable tarnish. A coin that is OVER-dipped loses its sparkle completely and acquires a kind of flat dull clean uniformity that to my eyes is not handsome at all. Of these, you can rate in order of UNdesirability (and lowered values) : 1. polished 2. heavily dipped 3. lightly dipped

If you've an interest in 1887 JH, then go into the "Varieties" sub-forum of this one, and have a look at my topic on a (so far unique, unrecorded) 1887 wreath reverse sixpence variety. Let me know what you think? http://www.predecimal.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4473

Nor me. Just one thought ... it's not a 9 with the downstroke kinked by an edge knock, and the upper "stroke" simply a scratch? As I say, just a thought.

Thin over fat surely! The underlying 8 shows through so much it must be that way round? I think the fat and thin terms are looked at in different ways. the 'Thin' you refer to is the thickness of the lines but I think the other way to look at it is the overall width of the 8? The narrow (thin) 8 has thick lines and the wide (fat) 8 has thin lines. Just different ways of describing it I think?? Reminds me of that US comedy "Soap" - the one that had an introduction listing all the recent events and ending "Confused? You WILL be..."

Don't worry - coins up to 10 or more years old and virtually BU turn up quite often.

Thin over fat surely! The underlying 8 shows through so much it must be that way round?

Sorry, but WTF is the point in the above post ? It's not even spam, it's just meaningless garbage. The point was to allow me to vent - the guy was clearly performing a public service

Choice! A dab hand with the arrows, shame that they mean bugger all!!!!! I've contacted the seller, let's hope he is an honest joe.

Yeah I see the fork, a few of my 1860s have the fork at the very tip, but none as pronounced as yours, thats a great example. Yes - I actually tried to interest Colin Cooke in it when he was working on the Farthings section of the replacement for Peck, but he didn't seem that bothered really. I wish I'd sent him the picture now, but it's too late *sigh*.

Old Head? London Mint? If so, then CCGB gives £70 EF and £120 UNC. Jubilee Head (London) £110 EF and £160 UNC Other mints, worth a LOT more.

Dirt is a possibility, but you can see it also peeking over the top of the 8. From the distribution of it, I think could well be an underlying 8.

Definitely an inverted 8. It also has the beginnings of the 'forked tail' 6, do you see? Here's mine, much more pronounced :

If it's "Very worn" it wouldn't be possible to say which numeral overlies which. If it IS an 1865/3 'clear date' it would be worth a few pounds, but no more.

Now THAT would make an interesting variation on the Xmas tree chocolate coins ...

The sharpness of the edge is a good indicator of a proof, as it's something that prooflike early strikes do NOT have. But yes, seeing it 'in hand' is the only sure way to tell.

One way of getting answers to questions is NOT posting them into specialised forums like this one and hoping that some poor cluck is going to take pity on your dumb ass and give you a free leg-up. As you've mentioned Google I assume you know what that does? Right. Then get thee hence and type something into the Search field and leave us poor clucks alone. Lest we kick your dumb ass.

Badger, when you click Reply, the post you're replying to is quoted for you in the reply box. So you just type after the end quote that's already there.

Well he must have been a brave man trying to take an imprint of that Not taken from one of the replicas available as it look too much like a real penny. A pity he didn't blow the felt hairs of the back before making the impression Gary Those replicas are total pants. Even the Lavrillier pattern looks more like the real thing than those abominations. I'd have paid £240 for that top one. The bottom one is a bad job, especially for the money. Speaking of the Lavrillier pattern ...

Didn't bother playing it to be honest. If I've heard that damn song once I've heard it 1967 penny mintage times But... after your comment, I went and watched it .... with the sound turned right down. NICE