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Went for £1120 in the end.

Ah, I get you now. I wasn't quite sure what you meant at first. I didn't think you could have meant the simple descriptions supplied by coin dealers with the coins they sell (eg: "1951 penny in EF, very rare", type of thing)

Yeah, welcome Bob. I'd be interested to know about your pre decimal silver collection. Have you done a collection of shillings at any point ?

Hmmm, exceptionally rare, but with a starting bid of only £99.00 this time. Nice coin, nevertheless. Starting at £99 it's a bargain, but as an example you could do a lot better. As the halfpennies were never issued for circulation you should always look for one in top grade. This one isn't. The reverse looks particularly abused and the obverse verdigris spot doesn't help. P1157 isn't the commonest variety, though certainly obtainable with patience. It obviously hasn't been kept with any degree of care, that much is clear.

The 3/2 overdate is very obvious, downward loop of the upper part of the three alomost joins with the central protrusion, the diagonal is faint protruding as a point at the base of the lower loop. Cant seem to attach the image, but will try again tomorrow John Thanks John ~ now that you've pointed that out, it is obvious. The art of recognising overstrikes, it seems to me, is knowing exactly what to look for in order to distinguish from the others. I have attached a closeup of a 53/2 Classic example of overdates being difficult to see! That looks like a normal 1853 to my eye. We could do with a book (or section of a book) devoted to all the known overstrikes, with close up comparison pics between the overstruck date, and what to look for, together with a non overstruck date for the same year. Thanks for the extra scans anyway, John. Difficult area, IMO.

A lot, probably. You've got to zoom in to see it, especially as there is a hint of green ambience elsewhere on the coin, that causes it to be slightly camouflaged. In the hand it would be positively minute, and barely visible to the naked eye. Fantastically well struck coin though. So well spotted, azda

to Offa's standard? 240 pence to 1lb Sterling silver at £12 per oz, 1d would be approx 80p That's an interesting thought, David. I must admit I've often pondered what would happen if we did revise the pound's value ~ perhaps so that a current £10 became the new £1 ~ that would take us back to about 1972 in terms of inflation. Or roughly to when the "new penny" started.

The 3/2 overdate is very obvious, downward loop of the upper part of the three alomost joins with the central protrusion, the diagonal is faint protruding as a point at the base of the lower loop. Cant seem to attach the image, but will try again tomorrow John Thanks John ~ now that you've pointed that out, it is obvious. The art of recognising overstrikes, it seems to me, is knowing exactly what to look for in order to distinguish from the others.

You would think there was a sufficient number already in circulation to justify at least a much lower mintage some years, or for none at all to be minted. After all, no old style pennies were minted between 1954 and 1960 inc. You can effectively count 1950 to 1953 in that as well. So I'm sure we could get away without 1p's for a few years. Conversely we need ATM's that dispense nice new fiver pound notes. Along with the £2 coin, probably the most useful currency available, and not enough of them. That's not a good thought ~ we'll be bloody traceable wherever we go, and there'll be nothing to collect

I think overstrikes can be very difficult to see in some cases. The coin posted by palves may be one of them. Often when I see a coin touted as an overstrike, I think "Is it ? I'll have to take your word on that one"

ask, and ye shall be given Hopefully the link should work this time.

Well that didn't work did it? I tried to use multi-quote but without success so for my last post, see green box above. Can somebody tell this technophobe how to use it? I'm much more comfortable with a torque wrench and a pair of stilsons... The multi quote doesn't work on here, Red. I've tried it a few times. I do "multi quote" effect posts sometimes, but am only able to do it via copying and pasting.

£2.50 for a Freeman. That's what good days are all about Actually your stroke of good fortune prompted me to look on Amazon, just on the off chance, and I found one, apparently "like new", for just £19.95, from a UK based source. So I've ordered it. Bit more expensive than yours, but still pretty good value. here it is Received today, and apart from slight dulling and fingerprinting of the dust jacket, I'd agree with "like new". Considering how much they go for now, it was a surprise to see the original purchase price printed as £13.95. Even allowing for inflation it would be nowhere near as high as the prices now asked, and secind hand books normally depreciate in value.

I think his both grading and price structure are rather subjective. Many of his coins are good, but somewhat overpriced IMO. At the end of the day though, he has to make a living, same as the rest of us.

I don't like the description "ABU" What's that all about anyway ? Does it mean "about brilliant uncirculated" or "about uncirculated" ? The seller could easily argue the latter if taken to task over his description. Anyway, "About brilliant uncirculated" is a misnomer if ever there was one. A coin is either BU or it aint, there's no "about".

On the other hand "jan1213" might be a nice looking woman.....jan, janette, janet ? ....OK, I'll get me coat --------->

For anything over about £500, I'd say auction would normally be best.

Hmmm, exceptionally rare, but with a starting bid of only £99.00 this time. Nice coin, nevertheless. It is rare, but so is a winning England football team and I haven't seen one of those on ebay either Is it just me or does that look like the twopence? According to Peck, the KH6,7 halfpenny pattern obverse/reverses have legends that take up the full wdth of the rim. On that photo, the legend only takes up 2/3 of the rim, just like the twopence. And if it really IS the rare halfpenny, why hasn't the seller included a ruler in the picture to prove it? I'm suspicious. Looks like the bidders are too. That's a very good point. I might ask him to include a pic with a ruler included.

Hmmm, exceptionally rare, but with a starting bid of only £99.00 this time. Nice coin, nevertheless.

I've been looking at the edge of all £2 coins that have passed through my hands for the last 2 or 3 weeks, and there are indeed examples in both camps, but with a preponderance of lettering the correct way round, with the obverse up. Maybe 3:1 That would not suggest total randomness. I'll keep looking.

Based on those recommendations, looks like we'll have to buy Gouby as well. No doubt about it. It appears that both books have their respective strengths.

My 1892 is exactly the same as Scott's, with the 8 looking smaller than the 1 (or slightly raised above it). By contrast, this doesn't occur on any of the others in the 1890 to 1894 series that I have.

On second closer look, I agree with GVF. There is a bit of wear apparent on the hair and in other places, which escaped me on first glance.

£154.95 from Amazon Couldn't find anywhere else, including e bay.

£2.50 for a Freeman. That's what good days are all about Actually your stroke of good fortune prompted me to look on Amazon, just on the off chance, and I found one, apparently "like new", for just £19.95, from a UK based source. So I've ordered it. Bit more expensive than yours, but still pretty good value. here it is