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My 1973 set of decimal proofs are all badly tarnished. By far the worst one of those early years ~ and that has a red background. I got it very cheap because of the tarnishing, and it's just got even worse since then ~ about 1995. As far as I can tell, there isn't an untarnished 1973 available.

Unfortunately I do not have that info, but will email Bernie. He did say catalogues will be available soon from Cookes, so I will email Neil at the same time. John, will you be able to give us the heads up when the catalogue is available ? Cheers

Most of the buns on e bay are overpriced "buy it nows". You're best off competing in the auctions, for which the eventual selling price will, almost invariably, be a lot less. Usually less than 50%. That said, £531 for a well worn overstrike, albeit a vanishingly rare one, still strikes me as overkill. Opinions differ widely.

"last man standing" auction ? Anyway, it certainly looks very interesting. Who knows there might be a high grade 1926 ME penny worth fighting over, if you've a spare couple of grand floating about. 1926 Modified Effigy in ~BU lower estimate £2000 in part 2 auction I'll look forward to seeing a pic of it

OK, thanks for that. Makes the picture clearer. Undoubtedly, as the mintages for various Freeman "R" numbers, indicate that there were far more originally produced than now remain in existence in all cases. I suppose, as you say Scott, that most will long since have been melted down, having gone unrecognised by a disinterested audience at the time, and worn down to a flat disc.

Yes. You have until a certain date to register your interest in a lot and then after the closing date, it's between you and whoever else has entered the minimum starting bid. You then keep going backwards and forwards until everyone else gives up and you are the last man standing. Can go on for a week or more. Oh right, thanks for that. Presumably the winner is the one whose bid still stands after say, 24 hours, with no further rival bids ? ~ and that everybody is still in the race until that point.

6 to 15 in existence is what R18 gives us. But what I can't quite get my head round, and hopefully someone will put me right, is why a 6 would have been stamped on the second figure of the year anyway ? I can understand the last figure, as it would be a re-stamp of unused coins from the previous year. But the second number in, and not many in existence. Has to be an error, and why would they take the trouble to over strike them ? Why not just waste them ?

"last man standing" auction ? Anyway, it certainly looks very interesting. Who knows there might be a high grade 1926 ME penny worth fighting over, if you've a spare couple of grand floating about.

I bet many of them have gone totally unnoticed in collections, especially by non experts. Even if they have been noticed, some probably wonder what they are, or that it's some sort of striking error ~ which in a way, I suppose it is.

I wonder what the two 1969 entries were all about. Whether they really did turn up 1933 pennies, be they fake or real. More likely to be publicity stunts as the hard facts show the number which were produced, and they were all accounted for. Interestingly, I note that the e bay "sale" of the supposed 1933 penny followed immediately after the piece on "The One Show" about the 1933 penny. Co-incidence ?

The reproductions can be bloody good ~ just look at this one The photo in the Mail is probably of a genuine one. But it is the Mail, and not renowned for reliability !!!

It would be brilliant if she did, but sadly, I think the moment has passed.

Very interesting. You don't tend to think of modern coinage having too many same year varieties.

This is why I love bun pennies ~ so many different varieties, even embedded within already scarce years.

Doubtful if anyone would try to fake modern bornze, not even in 1971. Sounds like someone just decided to have some destructive fun with it :-) Agreed. The meagre return just wouldn't have been worth the effort.

Condition makes it impossible to say what it might be. My own opinion is that it is just the original numerals have spread due to impact and wear. Even before I read your post, that was my conclusion as well.

Choice! A dab hand with the arrows, shame that they mean bugger all!!!!! I've contacted the seller, let's hope he is an honest joe. Looks as though the item was withdrawn shortly after Peck's post. So it may well have been a genuine error on his part.

Sorry, but WTF is the point in the above post ? It's not even spam, it's just meaningless garbage.

That's incredibly useful to know. I hadn't realised there was a dedicated insurance company. Their website can be viewed here

I don't know, but either way, I wouldn't buy it.

Do you have a scan of it that you could upload ?

Well done, Dave

They really do need to replace the one pound coin, IMO, and demonetise the existing issue, forthwith. There are a vast number of fakes circulating, most of which are dead easy to spot to anyone with even a passing interest in coins. But most people don't even bother looking. Hence the reason that the forgers are on easy street. As to its replacement, well a bi metallic pound might be a way forward. I'm honestly not sure what else would work. Maybe a slightly larger coin so that people noticed it more. Already well documented on here how many were minted, David, so I wouldn't take any notice of the inaccuracies spouted by the reporters on the programme.

But just before we do, I'm going to give my two pennuth. Corporal punishment had been abolished when I was at school, which was a pity in a way, because there was always a hard core of time wasting idiots messing about, flicking things at teachers and other students, and generally being a distraction. Although I had to admire our maths teacher who told one group of lads to piss off. When asked where they should go, he replied that he didn't care as long as they weren't in his classroom. When they'd gone, the rest of us applauded. If the cane had still been around (bend down, boy ), I'm damn sure they would have been a lot better behaved. We definitely need more discipline. I blame Tony Blair....oh, hang on, it was a bit before him. So much for the "iron lady" & her grey successor lol !!!

The trouble is that even if you post the music you like, chances are others won't be as into it as you. Most likely they won't even bother to play it. Sorry to be a damp squib