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Pretty outstanding piece, it is. My thought on it, yes.

Yeah, exactly my thought. NGC's pictures are working again, much easier to see details from my NGC link above. Clearly the date has incomplete 1 & 0 from the pics on there. NGC called it a proof, as well, just seems the incorrect P-number.

They seem to not have it hosted online any longer, however the catalog can be obtained here https://media.biddr.com/media/pdf/auction_catalogues/4516.pdf It's lot 1432, closer to the end. Attributed by NGC as P-1342, which iirc is standard circ 1806. I peg it as a KP 31 pairing, based upon imperfect 1 and 0 in date. Base of 1 missing, top of 0 is open. KP 31 gives us the following possibilities: P-1325 is gilt P-1326 is bronzed P-1327 is copper .... so one of these three. Not gilt, I think just standard copper, but maybe it's bronzed, I certainly am not too sure there. I tried to crop pic for the site, but results are not very clear. Best to download the catalog. NGC's cert images aren't currently working, but the link to that coin is here, hoping images are back up soon: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2153879-035/65/

I saw pieces in both auctions netting 12x to 16x the est. Wild. Either way, hope to obtain a print copy of part 2, also.

I won one, prob way overbid on it, second tier on many, some I wish i'd pursued more. Some I got left in the dust quickly. The bids were all extremely strong, in both ancients and British. NGC got the Peck number wrong on the 1806 proof penny.

Atlas upcharges quite a lot on their items. I've lost auctions, to later find the item on their site, with a good 50 to 200% increase over auction price (incl juice). If I was already priced out in the auction, I'm def not buying from them with such a huge premium tacked on. I know they need to make money, but ouch.

Yeah world of difference imo

That's extremely ugly, esp for a proof. Horrid toning, weak strike, just bad eye appeal.

Thanks for this additional context.

Yeah, tho i didn't know if that applied to proofs, or just currency. Chris added this tidbit: "Ah right, it's S-3836/ESC-2501 so nothing even rarer like the grain-edged proof"

I have a friend who recently picked up an 1831 proof sixpence, and has found conflicting mintage figures. "I've been trying to pin down the mintage for a while, though. Official numbers are apparently 120 but heritage says 400." I'm seeing for them if anyone might have some insight into this. Thanks.

NGC moments. Thanks guys.

Very nice, PWA.

What is tb/bb, please?

I just came across this auction via numisbids alerts yesterday. I'm pretty floored by the quality, and this is only part 1, no less. I was commenting elsewhere that the estimates felt about half what i'd expect, at least for lots I'm semi-familiar with.

Alas I don't have a dbl sov

Nice example, wish I could find one so nice on offer. Welcome to the forum.

Thanks everyone.

Oh yeah, mine has initials. Thank you.

As for the tarnish reducing paper topic, i'm not sure what exactly that is, but something i've read about and considered is getting thin copper sheets to place with copper/bronze coins, have it act as a magnet for tarnish. If it starts to turn, you apparently scrub it well to re-expose the copper. Some people use copper foil, but it's less resilient to scrubbing,do would often need replaced. The paper you had may have been imbued with copper, but long-since spent, served its purpose for a short time. Regarding cleaning, don't use ammonia on copper, bronze, or even lower purity silver. Or so I've been told. Acetone will work on organic matter, but not likely to affect verdigris, tarnish. Very neat potential split flan. You might consider buying the ebook version of the grading book, if you're comfortable reading digital books.

1860 rev pic 2 So as I said, I'm wondering if what I have is F- 6+D, or if I'm totally off, and also potentially what Gouby would call this. Thanks again.

1860 Obv pic 2

1860 rev pic 1