Peckris 2

Is that what Gentleman's Choice means?

Explain?

That IS a shocker. Mind you, the winning bidder at £330 deserves all they got if they didn't examine both pictures.

I don't believe they were not intended for circulation, though it's quite possible they got held back. You have to look at the buildup to conversion to bronze. I've read (can't remember where) that the original date for this was to be 1858, but they ran into so many problems it got pushed back, and the sheer number of errors and dies between 1860 and 1862 reinforces that. That would explain a couple of things: 1. the huge number of overdates and varieties for 1858 as they used up dies from previous years; there is no other year in the copper series which contains anywhere near so many varieties. This makes sense if in 1857 they still intended to switch to bronze in 1858, but then decided to postpone the changeover to 1860. This would also explain the relative lack of varieties for 1859 - having made the decision to postpone, possibly late in 1857, they had time to produce dies for 1859. OR, they postponed further from 1859 to 1860 but having done so once, left themselves with enough time to create 1859 dies. 2. the low mintage of 1860 bronze pennies. (5m for a major changeover is low, especially when you look at the vastly higher mintage for 1861, 62, 63). If the problems persisted, only being resolved quite late, then they would have started striking too late in the year to achieve a high mintage. Meanwhile there may have been an emergency issue of pennies required - all they could do in the time was reuse the 1859 dies; however, if the bronze pennies then started to be struck, it may be that the limited number of copper 1860s were never needed and thus didn't get issued? Except perhaps for a few, which either got out unofficially, or a few were released before the Mint could stop them. But what happened in the end to the small 1860 copper strike is anyone's guess. You'd have thought they would be melted down.

That's an absolute corker and would attract a hefty premium IMO.

I would say UNC with nearly full lustre. Selling price? I'd guess between £75 and £90. You'll probably say more, being in a slab! It's probably worth pointing out that slabs didn't appear to affect prices realised in the recent DNW sale, not much anyway.

Very very poignant. Well worth a listen.

I've tried twice to post this, but I get the 403 Forbidden each time. I'm hoping a picture will evade the censors...

I'd rate the second maybe VF or GVF at the most? However, being 1917, it's probably only had the circulation of an EF coin. It's the brown marks that put me right off it.

toemail... would that mean kicking him into next week?

You could be right. Certainly the only ones I've seen have turned out to be proofs. I mentioned the difference between 'scarce' and 'rare' to one eBayer and asked him to let me know if the designs looked "white" and dull compared to the blank areas. He must have thought his ship had come in because he replied "Yes!". I had to let him know that his was a proof and therefore only scarce, not rare.

I won't comment on the second, but... the first is about as good as it gets. Yes, I know the obverse only looks EF but that's pretty standard for 1917 6d's - the dies were wearing, and it's very very difficult to get a good one. I'd rate it GEF?

"Pound to a penny" ... yes. Compare the coin market in 1971, and in 1985, and other times too I'm sure. Then think of property in the early 90s, and shares at various different times. Gold in the late 90s. Nothing ever keeps going up.

You're not kidding! 1922 halfpenny for £350 anyone? https://jonblyth.com/coins/coin-details.aspx?id=2516

What grade was it?

No. Sad, I had wondered why she'd not been on Top Gear recently.

Yes, half a million makes much more sense than the stated mintage given what is actually out there. Add in the fact that a quantity will have been sucked up during the 1992 withdrawal, and you're left with quite a small number. Let's face it, the 1981 proofs seem easier to get hold of than the currency coins.

Aargh. I missed it...

"So what kind of watts do you want guv - RMS, Peak Power, or James?"

Remember the Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch where the two hifi shop assistants took the mick mercilessly out of a customer?

Remind me which that is? I'm looking to upgrade my 1921 (pre-1920 obverse) which I've only got in VF.

Ditto.

A friend who knew the Hindi alphabet was in India and painstakingly spelled out a sign in a big railway station. "R" she began, "É", "L", "W", "É", "ST", "É", "SH", "N". Then blushed...

Yeah, they definitely missed a trick.

Yeah, but both those are commems. No-one ever talks about currency issues (even the 1983 'error' 2p is only in sets, but would probably have been headlined in any case; but otherwise...)