TomGoodheart

Brilliant! Thanks!

No I don't have one Stuart. (I photocopied a few pages that were of interest many years ago, but not that one!) If you are able to attach a pic, that would be brilliant! Thanks!

Er ... not right now Stuart. Definitely confused. And not just by Maundy coins either! And .. sorry Declan!! Not quite sure what happened there! But the photos and 'proofiness' explanation helps, so thank you.

So can you explain the features that lead you to that Stuart? Because it's all new (and confusing) to me! Surely currency 3ds would far outnumber Maundy ones? The reason I ask is that ..ahem, someone - entirely unknown to me though luckily it's just the sort of thing I will appreciate - has bought me one of the RM 'lucky' silver pennies for Christmas. And if I did know about such a thing, well, I might just start thinking of buying a few more silver pennies .. as a sort of side line. Not that I do know of course. Which makes it most coincidental I happen to be posting this thread, but well, synchronicity and all that .. And if that makes sense to anyone, well done! Because I'm not sure I'm following this, but ... And I have yet to have a glass of anything alcoholic today. Most odd! Perhaps I'm channeling Peter? Now there's a worrying thought ..

So, this is how I understand it. By the 1820s there was no demand for a piddly little silver penny and probably little interest in a silver half-groat (2d) either, apart from the traditional annual Maundy giving. Consequently special issues of 1,2,3 and 4ds were minted annually for that purpose. However prior to the 1800s (and contrary to what the RM website says) I can't see that there was any difference between a 'Maundy' penny and a regular currency silver penny. It's just that people have fallen into the habit of calling all small denomination (4d and below) milled silver 'Maundy' money. Or am I wrong and there are distinguising features to, say a 1750 penny that can be used to determine whether it was struck as a currency piece or not?

Not to me, but Americans can be a funny lot when it comes to humour Dave. I also think in the US there's more of an obsession with precious metal value so people will bid on that alone, even though they have no interest in a coin as a coin. Maybe he worries it's not silver because nobody else has bid? Here in the UK I suspect people buy for melt too, but much more a last minute thing, when someone sees they could make a bit on a low-bid item.

That has to be the poorest fake NGC slab I've ever seen!

Shatter??? Ah, he means a Ski Hat! Don't know why he didn't say that in the first place.

Interesting enough coin, but I'm not so sure about the big jump in the bidding. And the seller's ID is somehow familiar ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHARLES-SILVER-SHILLING-BRIOTS-BUST-/360722536133 Calm down Dave ... Oh, and if anyone did want one (the neater cross ends reverse (Sharp G1/1) is scarcer than the regular issue, the triangle/anchor overmark interesting, though not the clearest I've seen and it has some decent details) the current price if between £70-£80 seems about right. Wouldn't go much higher than that myself ...

Interesting. I know nothing about circulation or not, but I know that 'when I were a lad' a crown was a lot of money. If my Grandpa gave me half a crown as a gift and it would be very welcome! I remember getting one as a prize for my handwriting at school. I could buy a lot of sweets, several ice lollies or a paperback book with 2/6. And that was in the 1960s. So a crown in 1930 would I suspect be a decent amount of money to a youngster and to an adult like getting a tenner. And, as with now, if you saw a design you'd not spotted before, well, I suspect you'd put it aside. Which is not to say a few mightn't have been spent, after all, I'm not sure how aware people were of the scarcity of such pieces. Certainly not like in the 1970s when newspapers were full of lists of which coins were valuable and change hunting was popular. But I'd imagine most were saved as souvenirs, legal tender or not.

Hi William. Your sixpence is, as most coins of the time were, hammered. Which is to say it was individually made by placing a planchet (blank silver disk) between two metal dies and then the top die was struck very hard with a hammer (probably a couple of times) to impress the design into the silver. What this means is that each coin is unique. Quite often the planchet shifts a bit between hammer blows, causing the design to be doubled. Not uncommon with such coins. It was only in the mid-1600s that people started to make coins using machines. Before that it was really only done experimentally. Machines of course use the same amount of pressure each time and combined with machine cut planchets give you a more uniform output of coins. Such as your halfpenny which is an example of early milled (machine made) coinage. My main interest is hammered coinage so I'm less experienced with grading milled coins. But I'd say your halfpenny is Fine, which my book says is "A coin that exhibits considerable wear to the raised surfaces of the design ..." Other more knowledgeable members may feel differently and I'd trust them!

Anyone know how cheap the RM silver pennies they make for baby gifts go for? For some inexplicable reason (I tell myself it could be the final coin in a series of siver pennies going back to the Viking kings LOL) I just fancied a silver 1p. But I didn't want to spend crazy money. Nor do I need a 2013 coin. I see 2009s going for a bit less, but wondered if anyone knows a cheap source? I don't care if it's boy, girl or .. beige was it? I'm only interested in the penny. And price!

http://stacksbowers.com/auctions/auctionlots.aspx?auctionid=192&sessionid=436 Link to the August sale. It starts with page 10 as that's where the British coins commence but you should be able to search from there for anything else.

I notice there are a few pieces that might be of interest to bronze/cu collectors in the 20th August Stacks auction. Like this:

http://stacksbowers.com/auctions/AuctionLots.aspx?AuctionID=192&SessionID=432

I just viewed online. Some nice hammered halfcrowns in the Chesser lots, but (fortunately?) nothing in my line, so I get to save my pennies!

I agree with Rob. Probably guide marks for the design. Similar marks appear to be present on this one of Richard III:

Hi William and welcome!

Hi Ako. Yes, there are other sites where you can sell. For example Delcampe However, although it can be annoying ebay does have probably the largest potential number of buyers, particularly if you are prepared to post abroad. As the other guys have said, it rather depends on what you have. Certainly the foreign coins are likely to fetch better prices on a site with good international coverage. But if they are just coins in circulated condition picked up from holidays abroad they probably won't fetch much wherever you list them! I did have some success (on ebay) listing a few coins at a time. One was half a dozen old coins going back to early Victorian, another I called 'interesting' and included a very small Swiss cent, a large (worn) cartwheel twopence and a few multi-sided coins. I listed them as suitable for kids or as a 'starter' set and both lots made a few quid. I just put them to auction format and let people decide what they were worth. But if you have better grade coins and know what price they would make a fixed price 'buy it now' style would probably be better. But without knowing what sort of thing you have it's difficult to be specific. As said before, what you have will determine the best place to sell and how.

Is it definitely an 'E' Rob? If it was £ instead a simple backwards alphabetic code would have Z as zero, Y as 1, X= 2 etc to L being 14. £14/0/0 Just an idea .... Of course, you'd need a couple of other coin tickets from the same collector to check ... anything in Eaglen?

That's daft. Anyone with that sort of money surely knows that's a piece of repro junk. I smell a scam.

It's a lot down to Rob that I have begun to appreciate the benefits of a decent library of reference material. While often not cheap (due to having been published some time ago, being out of print, or just in demand) I suspect there's always scope to learn from someone with a bit more expertise.

Not I. I've even visited the shop (on my way to Spinks) but didn't see anything I was interested in ...

I just posted a link to this book in answer to a query on another forum. But I did wonder, is there a 2008 available as the download says 2006? And any plans for an update? In case anyone asks ...

It seems to have stopped, so I have no idea what it was! However I now have a mod bar. At first I thought ModeratorCP meant Chris. Doh! It means Moderator Control Panel! Oooh! I can feel the power going to my head! But you're all safe because I'm away for a few days break. Until I get back (or internet access) anyway!