TomGoodheart

No, you're OK Dave. Just out of interest for my records, how much was it? It might interest you to know that the curious inner circle bit to the lower bust isn't due to double striking, but the die itself. Compare it with this coin and I think you'll see what I mean: E2_2.jpg £190 plus the juiceThanks! A fair price I think. The other coin (which has less flan and an odd shape which to me detracts) sold for £225 two years ago, so well done!

No, you're OK Dave. Just out of interest for my records, how much was it? It might interest you to know that the curious inner circle bit to the lower bust isn't due to double striking, but the die itself. Compare it with this coin and I think you'll see what I mean:

Stanley Baldwin? Has a certain ring to it I guess, though a tad conservative perhaps?

Yes. In principle they offer a useful service if they identify fakes and preserve coins. But the grading / population thing is really just an opinion. If it wasn't then all NGC AU58s would crossover to PCGS AU58. Which of course, they don't. The whole TPGS thing is flawed to me. From TPGS being, like all of us, constrained by their knowledge being limited to just the coins they've seen. That, again like most of us, graders are supposed to be assessing how much wear a coin exhibits compared to a pristine example but are I am sure also swayed by 'eye appeal' and other factors unrelated to wear. And the financial needs of TPGS being based on people believing that a slabbed coin is more attractive than a raw one.

Ah now we're talking....the Live '79 album is probably the most perfect music of the 20th Century. That and the Inkspots anyway. I miss album covers .... Now it's all digital there's no .. art. (Says he while listening to some German electro on a webplayer..)

LOL Ok, I have heard of Floyd. But not to the extent I'd recognise lyrics. I suspect by the time Fat Old Sun was out I was listening to Hawkwind. It all went downhill from there really as I now alternate between metal and futurepop.

Well, I always say, it's a good thing we don't all like the same thing! Personally I (obviously) like shillings and while I keep thinking of buying a few hammered pennies, by the time they drop to much below the size of a current penny I somehow find them less attractive. Maundy pennies while often nice in detail are a bit ... tiddly! I guess if ever I do decide to branch out from the current theme I shall have to decide how I feel about that as a run of silver pennies quite appeals .. but then the same could be said for a few sixpences. Oh well, nice to keep my options open!

Not popular. There is too much large and interesting Chas 1 material for the small things to get much attention. I suspect this is a good example of how rarity is not always linked to price. I occasionally wonder about picking up a denomination set, from penny upwards, just for fun. But I've noticed that finding the lower value coins in really decent condition, centrally struck on a proper round flan is ... well, I don't know it's impossible, but it bloody well wouldn't be easy! A well struck coin should go for a premium over Spink, but smaller coins don't often seem to reach prices that reflects how much time and effort you'll need to expend to find them. Whereas even a battered Newark coin is normally priced well over it's regular issue equivalent. The popularity of siege issues creates the opposite effect in that they really aren't as rare (OK, apart from a few odd denominations) as you might imagine from the price. And on that note, what I personally still find a bit odd is that pierced Newarks go for much less. Which suggests to me that collectors are swayed by the story behind them (and so prepared to pay high) but still mark them down for holes as if they were regular coins. I actually like the idea of owning a pierced one. That to me adds to the history of the thing. But then I have a fondness for amulets, medallions and the like, so I guess I'm odd! Anyway, that's a purchase for another day. When the Tower shilling collection is complete.

Don't have the current edition, but in my old 2006 for S2824 was £90 in VF, so even if it has doubled ....

If it sells it will be to an American ...

He must have decided there was an error. It's €804 on delcampe.net Dave!! There's hopeful and .... insane. And I think we both know which side of the line this one falls on!

LOL Unfortunately my ususally very efficient searches have turned up nothing, so I'll say €125 and you'll have to put me out of my misery Dave and tell me if I'm close! EEEEK! Nowhere close! Do you think there's a decimal place error there?

I have to say, I've no idea. It's not a denomination for which I've seen many examples. Nice condition. Plus the mint marks make it interesting. My old Spink suggests £90 in vf, so on the right day it could reach £120. Higher if there it has an interesting provenance. But on a bad day .. as low as £70? Rather a large range and a lot of guesswork I'm afraid!!

Maybe the RM should take inspiration from the Canadians. A glow-in-the-dark note with Queen Elizabeth sinking the Armada from the back of her dinosaur? £10 for £10. Should sell well!

Well, that's hardly surprising Derek! Their eyesight at nearly 200 years old will surely be pretty dodgy, even if their memory is unimpaired?

Most dealers there I'd never heard of, Clive, and looking them up afterwards quite a few have no internet presence at all, which is remarkable. Quite old school in a way - it almost felt a bit "underground", compared to the mainstream I'm used to swimming in. As well as Rob, the other people who sold me stuff were: David Craddock Birmingham Coins Ian Pratt Paul Davis Numismatic Legends D T Peake K B Coins Dave Craddock and K B Coins are very much old-timers - I remember them from the mid-90s. Possibly Ian Pratt too? but the other names are unfamiliar. Did you happen to see Dorset Coins, Carlton Coins, Lockdales, or Wayne Nicholls there? They were familiar faces to me all those years ago. I bought some nice coins from Keith Bayford as he's (relatively) local to me. Before I started to concentrate on the hammered shillings, that was. He's not long had a website and it still surprises me that there are dealers that don't ....

Yeah, but most of those are things like "Why are the Kardashians so popular?" and "Who are One Direction?" so don't really count! Are they the popular cousins of the extremely unpleasant Cardassians? Yes, and who ARE One Direction? (I did hear one of their songs that I thought was someone doing a remake of The Who's 'Baba O'Riley') I'm afraid I can't answer those questions Peck.

Peter Leonard of ?Southend? makes / made the best cabinets. If he's no longer in business, the cabinets do come up second hand from time to time and are worth looking out for. Make sure it's a coin cabinet though - I bought one of his from an auction that turns out to be a medal cabinet : the trays are deeper and don't have punched recesses for coins. I still use it for parts of my collection though Mine's one of Peter Nichols'. I have to say I thought I'd heard he was retiring but he still seems to be making the things!

It partly depends on what metal your coins are made from, how many you have and what you want to spend! Shiny/proof/lustered copper type coins you'll want to protect from fingermarks / tarnish, whereas my old coins, well they have been around a few hundred years and picking them up isn't going to ruin them. I imagine if you have bought the binders they will be 'safe' plastic. Only older ones people inherit are likely to have pvc which can tarnish coins. Coins for display, .. trays are nice and come in a variety of ranges and cost. Some will take coin capsules (and have round holes), others coins in a square space. But if you have a lot of coins, the price can mount up. Chris (Predecimal owner) stocks Lindner storage you could look at. Me? My collection is in a coin cabinet; a traditional way of storing the things which quite a few others here use: But oddities I store in small 2"x2" paper envelopes I bought from Colin Cooke ltd, a couple of odd trays, chocolate boxes and plastic coin flips. The usual stuff!

Yeah, but most of those are things like "Why are the Kardashians so popular?" and "Who are One Direction?" so don't really count!

Woah! I just thought! I have all these 1967 pennies. Now if only there was a way to alter them to read 1962 I could make a fortune! oh, wait .....

For grading perhaps Derek's (who is a member here) book might be of interest?: The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins The only other thing I'd mention is that buying directly from the RM and companies like Westminster can be expensive. Very often their products can be picked up later on ebay for less. And of course, there may be less of a market for such things if ever you want to sell than for coins meant for circulation. If you like them, that's fine. But they aren't a money-maker. Except for the mints that make them in the first place of course!

Ditto. A very good day indeed, with coins to prove it! Well done!

Hi Al. As the others have said, it helps to have an idea of what coins interest you before we can offer much advice. Here's my story. I got a load of odd coins from my Dad. Some I put aside and of course, I wanted to know what they were worth! So I went to the library and got a few books on coins. One of them was about shillings (the 'old' 5p). Now I remembered spending shillings from when I was a kid and I was surprised to see they had been used not just here but in countries like South Africa and New Zealand. I decided it would be fun to collect a selection just like in the book. Over time I've narrowed down what I collect as what I've wanted has become pricier, but I still collect shillings, only now just English ones produced during a particular time period. As I've collected I've bought books to help me know what coins exist and what sort of condition the better ones are in so I have a guide to what's worth buying and what's not! I have also learned (pretty much everything I know about coins!) from other collectors as we've compared notes about coins we've seen (or not seen!) People collect all sorts of coins, depending on what they like. That's something you'll need to decide for yourself. All I'd say for now is ... condition (we talk about 'grade' which means how much (or ideally little) wear a coin has had over its lifetime) is the MAJOR decider in how much a coin will cost and how desirable it is. Which brings me to 2) Never Clean Coins (unless you want to ruin and devalue them!) And 3) (my personal opinion) don't mix investment with collecting. Collect for fun. If you choose well, if you ever decide to sell you'll find a buyer. Maybe even make a profit. But collect because you enjoy it.

Hi Asumel and welcome! I've not dealt with Kent Coins, but do have them bookmarked in case anything interesting comes up in their stock. I'm not sure what you mean by odd? Looks like a normal low- to mid- range dealership to me. By which I mean that they have modestly priced coins in grades that reflect their prices. Advice about buying old coins? Well ... that kinda depends on what you mean by 'old' really! Some people think of anything pre-decimal as old. Others would say a coin needs to have been around for over 1000 years to qualify! Me? Anything pre 1816, which is when the face value of coins was disconnected from the intrinsic value of the metal they were made from. Bear in mind, old doesn't necessarily mean more valuble or expensive. Roman coins can be picked up for a few ££ and coins from the 1930s can be worth tens of thousands. It all depends on the coin and what condition it is in! Basically, there are some who just collect anything they like. But most people collect within a time period, reign or by denomination (face value) of coin. To really advise you best we'd need to know what sorts of coins interest you. So personally I'd recommend getting a book or two on coins from the library and see what appeals to you. Then you might like to read a bit more about coins that you like before spending too much money. I know that's not as much fun as just going out and buying! But it makes it less likely you'll spend good money on something that really isn't worth it and you later regret. (Though I have to say, we've probably all been there and done that at some point!)