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You pipped me to that one, Jerry! I was just "buying it now" when it closed! Also, did anyone on here get this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Queen-Victoria-Penny-1861-/393052202355?hash=item5b83bca573%3Ag%3A0uYAAOSwzEpf03PO&nma=true&si=HsvO6lNGBPRb%2BAmvjfay%2BxU5S9A%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It is an 1861 6+F, detector find but nice. It actually sold for a best offer of £100. I also put an offer in, but less and was beaten, but that's how I know what it actually went for. If you did get it, can you post better pics, perhaps?

How odd, Jerry- I've always had excellent results, unless of course you have that 'Hereford Clag' - a particularly evil hard accretion that exists in your part of the world, and I've just got soft southern stuff. Wormelow tump is a pile of the stuff left over from the Bronze Age..... I did notice a change when I left Worcestershire years ago- I put it down to the M1 being nearby....:)

I don’t actually agree with this, Blake, though of course there are caveats. Personally I find wood, copper too soft to budge most true verdigris (as opposed to that green waxy ‘protoverd’), and I tried sharpened copper wire and found it tended to simply burnish the surface I was working on with a thin layer of copper. I find I always come back to the same steel needle mounted in a plastic handle that I have used for thirty years, with its perfectly smooth point, and occasionally hypodermic needles with their chisel like tips . I actually find it quite difficult to mark copper or bronze with the former unless through lack of care, but a hypodermic can certainly do damage. But then again I am using a binocular microscope usually at x40 where a letter fills the field of view, and I can see exactly what I am doing. And I am happy to take many hours, and give Verdicare time to work, often overnight. Believe me, if I were to visibly damage a rare coin during conservation (for when we negate verdigris on copper alloy we are preventing future problems) then I would not do it ! But always act within your competence, and get a powerful magnifier. Jerry

Aha, that one is safe with me.....😃 Jerry