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its smee my name that I use here was taken the bastards lol

Hi Danz, I've just discovered another 1837 R over lower R.

You're in !

The cannonball is rather higher on the wide date 1875 ‘cannonball’ non-variety 😜, but it does look similar otherwise, perhaps there was a piracy issue in 1875. Jerry

Hi Zoo, There are two sub types of F17 6+D and the 6+D* this may be another slight variation. Below D* has a curved rock up under the shield . D has just sea. See Richards Site Site. https://englishpennies.wordpress.com/victoria-bronze/

That's very true, but it's a result of (1) NICE and their ludicrously delayed judgements on whether to licence a new drug, and it's so often "No", and (2) despite their - I would say criminal - assertions to the contrary, the government cuts in real terms to the NHS budgets. Far from failing, I think the staff who are there do a heroic job in the face of their greedy bungling paymasters. There will always be tragic failures, that's for sure. But if you look at how many people are treated by an understaffed, under-budget health service, you have to feel nothing but admiration. Add to that a population who are getting ever more like the States in matters of obesity, drink, drug abuse, lack of exercise, poor diets etc, and really we should give out medals to the health professionals.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/the-stamp-and-coin-shop-online-limited Jerry

Yup, I would say F 17. The flaw on the last colon seems to appear on the latest 1861’s. Jerry

The quality control on modern coins is absolutely appalling , its seems to be the same with all circulation coins , but you would think they could make an effort on a celebration issue. When you consider the detail and astounding quality of the coinage a hundred years ago in Edwardian times such as this 1903 penny , just a circulation issue, but so fine that it could be a proof. The flecks are just remaining lustre .

Wondered where you'd been, Pete. Hope you are now feeling better.

On a more positive note after the £2 debarckle A very smart 1862 Half Penny

I have a couple of sixpences from Fiji. They have a tortoise or turtle on them or something - I think they are quite cute. I know nothing about them but if I am ever sorting through a lot of foreign coins then the ones from Fiji always catch my eye. :-)

I pretty much agree with this but would include "mule" coins where a coin is struck with an unusual die pairing, either planned or by accident.

I’d agree too. Mis-strikes may be of interest to some (not me), but to be a true variety it has to be a physical alteration of the die, whether a deliberate or erroneous action of a human. Failings of the manufacturing process alone , and even die wear and tear (ONF pennies, dot coins etc ) may merit comment in the catalogues but in my opinion not varietal status. The only reason Freeman listed the ‘97 dot penny is that it was initially thought to be a deliberate die identification mark. Jerry

Considering this is what it looked like when I got it, I think it was worth the effort!

The best one I've seen is Victoria on her potty!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/183H3v9n7H30bh_HcWH_Ct6j7CKxRbCq5/view?usp=drivesdk