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Somewhere between 2 and 3 grand I suspect, but could go higher on the day. It’s very difficult to predict for these serious rarities as it depends on the bidding of two people who have a gap to fill and really want it. Jerry

so Ive been having a look around since the suggestion of that it maybe a Irish Farthing coming to light...so could this be. 1 Farthing - Edward I Dublin, Long Cross 1279-1284 I'm writing this down with a Question Mark alongside it.... its great to be able to place information alongside the coins even though its questionable...A huge thanks to Stu for spotting this 🙏

Wonderful find - I've added it to my website. Let me know if you would like personal attribution. Regarding grade, I view the grade of a coin to be reflective of the amount of natural wear/circulation; any further damage should be included as a qualifier.

while there's still a nasty spots there it is at least a bit more collectable and the horrid green colour has gone - nice one

Thank you !

Thank you! agree, being rare, cleaned and or polished with scratches its quite tricky for me to value the coin. I have seen the 24 examples on Richards website most of which have sale prices. Most of those examples are more worn but dont have scratches and not obviously cleaned/ polished. Asking opinion on the grade is simply to try better understand the value. I have no intentions to sell the coin.

It's less than VF in my book, but who cares with a rarity like that!

Strangely, the 1806 is so so common in lower grades but much scarcer than the penny and farthing in top grades.

Brilliant result!

I’d say it is more polished than cleaned. Sounds like you’ve had a good buy, though! 👏👏

Not if there's a MD's close by

Hypothetically speaking what do you think I could jot down as a value in my database, many thanks.

Thanks for that info ! I had previously stumbled across Garys ebay listing's also seen his name on Richards website.

Thanks Jerry ! I'm happy with that. I doubt il find a better one in the wild.

Thank you for the response. I found the coin early this year by chance. It was the first coin in my collection...! Infact it's because of this coin Im now collecting coins/varieties.. I come across the coin and after researching it I figured it was a rare coin. Since then I have been searching high and low and trying to learn as much as possible. So far I have only been searching for coins that are not listed for sale as varieties, as I'm sure you aware its really addictive the buzz of finding a bargain.

Well done, another nice spot. In general misplaced repairs with the correct letter/digit are not as heavily collected as those where the wrong letter/digit has been used, but do still carry a significant premium. Gary is a member of this forum, and is a very experienced bronze and copper collector 😉. Jerry

The lack of H was the first thing I spotted! And with the gap between R and I of BRITT this looks a genuine one! Stunning purchase, GF details for me, probably previously cleaned but still one of the better ones. Bosh ! Jerry

When you posted your query, I did not even notice the lack of H! Very well done for finding one of those. How long have you had it? £6 is a stunning bargain. As to grading - I am not probably the best person to quote as I tend to be old-fashioned and grade harsher than most modern dealers. For example, I would not agree with the London Coins grading of the other example. I would give that only F on the obverse and a nVF on the reverse. On that basis, yours would grade aF or F both sides, with the scratches noted as details. But what the heck, I would forgive any grade to have an example in my collection! I prefer to grade on Rob's basis - "Acceptable" or "Not Acceptable".

Thank you, here is an example from London coins that was graded VF or better, such a shame mine is cleaned and scratched.. That's really the root of my question how does the cleaning and scratches change the grading.

I found this 1861 2+D coin and assumed it was 8 over 6, because the 8 over 8 I wasnt aware it exists, Then I found this example listed on ebay by Gary: https://www.ebay.com/itm/326784536418 once i started looking for 8 over 8 and then I found a third on London coins. Following sending the information to Richard Sessions this information was added to his website; https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1861-f18-8-over-8/ If you have some 1861 coins have a look closely at the 8 will be interesting to know if any others appear. The rarest penny website by Richard has proven really useful and has allowed me to learn alot of information in a short period of time of which I cant thank Richard enough. I enjoy finding coins and going to the website to learn about pairings and variety's, more often than not things are not what I think they are.. It's a steep learning curve identifying variety's and pairings from this series. And would be much harder without a site like Richard's.

I'm still not as good at this as I want to be but if I were putting it into my catalog, I'd note it as VF+ details obverse and VF reverse because of the wear on the high spots. There's enough of the dress, to me, to warrant VF. I wait to hear other views

I purchased this coin for 6 pound 🙂, so cant be too upset for the light cleaning and scratches. The actual colour of the coin is typical cleaned bronze colour. Given the cleaning, scratches how would you grade the coin? Many thanks.

Ah now that shows great promise!

Thank you ! I Just posted another coin. 1874 with some differences to the back of the helmet plume, possible extra plumes, I'm not sure.

I noticed this 1874 penny with what appears a difference to the back of the helmet plume. What do you think? thanks.