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It looks Scottish, but my books are at home and I'm not, so someone else has to chip in with a reference number/value.

Yes, sorry I didn't realise that was posted. I had to transfer to desktop to reduce the photo file size, so it should be there soon.Both phoos were too big

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Thank you to everyone who helped with the Queen Anne coin back in July. I have found some more coins in my brother’s things. Google tells me this one is Queen Mary. It is 2.5 cm diameter. Any information much appreciated. He found it in a rubbish pile about 20 years ago, along with what look like Dutch coins and old pennies, and a really worn heavy bronze coin.

We meet on the first Tuesday of every month starting at 7:30 in the Nursey Inn on Green Lane in Heaton Norris. Below is the text outlined in our 2025 chairman's report which gives full details. South Manchester Numismatic Society (SMNS) Chairman’s Report to 2026 BANS Our AGM was held in June 2025 at our long-standing venue, the Nursery Inn, Heaton Norris, Stockport, SK6 4NL. 7 members attended and 2 apologies were accepted. In addition to the normal agenda, discussions moved on to topics which had been submitted by members as AOB. As a result of these conversations the following was agreed. It was decided that our subscription to Zoom should be cancelled, although the option to renew remains under consideration. We also reduced our annual subscription to £5. It was decided to change our meeting start time to 7.30 from 8.00 pm and to reduce the number of meetings to the level of most BANS societies at once a month. One of our members, Roy Williams, volunteered to submit pieces for publication in the Societies section of Coin News. He has been doing an excellent job in promoting SMNS. Since the AGM the average attendance has been eight across seven meetings which has been boosted by the recent pleasing acceptance of four new members. Two of us, Denis Martin and Paul Greenlees, have given presentations. The Exhibition Evening and the Colin Cooke trophy was won by David Holt for his display of Henry VIII posthumous coinage. At the latest meeting chairman Denis spoke an appreciation and presented Peter Crummett with a gift to celebrate his 90th birthday. It was decided to make Peter an Honorary Member following his over 65 years of support. Before the 2026 AGM in June we have a quiz and a talk from Peter to which we can look forward. In writing this Charman’s report I am pleased to announce that 2025/6 has been a most successful one. Dr Denis M Martin ( Chairman) There is a good range of knowledge in the club, with quite a few specialist fields. Early medieval, Tudor & Stuart, Greek and Roman and some Byzantine, Farthings, Shillings, Modern, Tokens misc. Foreign is probably the least represented unless covered by other fields. We are a tolerant lot that appreciate you can't know everything, so any additional knowledge is welcome. Online access to the meeting was used so that Garry Oddie and others could 'attend', but that obviously went tits up when he died. He joined most meetings and often gave a talk.

Thank you very much Stuart, very kind. That coin is pretty rare to see on the market too, in any decent condition, yours are the best that I have seen. And certainly I will share the files here as well as with PAS, and anyone with a use for them. New examples have slowed but still occasionally come out of the woodwork. I am also creating sheets for early and late Medieval English, and Scottish medieval coins. I will be sharing those too. All a work in progress, perhaps another month or so .. With kind regards David

Good evening, and welcome to the forum. Of course you can use the images in any way you wish, no credit necessary. As I’m sure you’re already aware, this is currently understood to be a single die, though many examples exist of it, courtesy of the Colchester hoard. Only one single specimen was known before the find, so there are likely not too many detector examples remaining out there? Good luck with all your research, please share it with us when it’s completed. Very best regards, Stuart

That’s really kind of you, Rob, such a generous invite. I can’t for a minute imagine I’d be able to make it, but when is your next meeting?

Going through my penny collection and picking out coins to sell.......I have four more of these thin flan examples. I can't offer any opinion on the acid bath theory so will simply defer to those who know better than I. But surely there can be genuine mint struck thin flan ones, due to an incorrect blank or a metal sheet rolled too thin? Reason I'm wondering is that one pair has the ghosting effect said to be caused by acid (if I understand the previous explanations correctly) but the other pair don't.

Of course it is. Listed as a half penny but I was to busy looking at the finer detail to notice the elephant. I'm back home tonight but yes. Definitely a penny. Thanks.

Think it's a penny, Bob - bust of Victoria too big and too near linear circle at top to be a halfpenny. D'oh !!

And a screenshot of Bernie's 13#, to show the relationship between the I and the T's.

Evening all. I'm still alive. Silly question time. Picked this up on eBay the other day. 1875. The wide spacing of the colon, in relation to the G of REG, would suggest obverse 13. Thoughts on whether the T's of BRITT are sufficiently touching, to make it a 13#, sought. Desperate coin I know. Been delivered but working away from home at mo, so sellers photos.

Good day I am compiling a sheet or two or medieval ligations, mostly from Henry III pennies, and have been helped immensely by Silbury Coins, however I see that your two coins seem to have an SR ligation henricvSRex, one I have not come across. The reason I am doing this started off as an aid for me - I am a self-recording detectorist and volunteer image editing time with the Portable Antiquities Scheme. My intention is to make the complete pages, or as complete as I can make it, available in the public domain, to help others identify poorly preserved coinage. I wonder if I might extract the SR ligation from one or both of your coin images? Happy to acknowledge contributions to the work. Kind regards Dr David BAKER (retired)

Drop him a line. Better still, come up to the next SMNS meeting as he will be giving the talk, so definitely there. You can then speak face to face over some Hyde's beer in the pub where we meet. His knowledge on all things Edwardian (Plantagenet) is considerable, but is always willing to learn. Happy to put you up if a bed is needed.

Hi Rob, I’m not sure that I’ve moved any further forward with this Newcastle conundrum, hopefully time will provide more evidence and some experiential statistics? However, in the meantime, some great learning has come from stumbling across Denis’ article on the class 6 coins, which I raised a query about on here a while back. I’ve got some new information, I think, on the 6a2 he wrote about, and a new obverse example hiding in plain sight. I look forward to adding it here during the upcoming 2 weeks I have off after tonight. I think he’ll/you’ll find it interesting 🙂

Thanks so much, Rob, really generous of you, I’ll digest that later, I’m currently in between nights. It’s interesting because I was reading a few of Denis’ articles on the BNS blog last night, that’s a rabbit hole of info. in itself.

I called Denis last night to disturb his break and he could only offer the following from memory. I think he misunderstood the question - but it was near the end of the evening. His reply as follows. 3e Northern mints. York (Royal), York (Episcopal), Newcastle, Durham. In my opinion not much to choose between them for relative rarity. York most common , then Newcastle and Durham about the same. 9b. Relatively common. Exeter, Chester and Kingston upon Hull the less common ones. Newcastle in early class 10 are very common even the 10X mules between class 9 and 10 which for other mints are rarer. Newcastle stops minting early in 10ab. I know of no data to confirm my thoughts or otherwise since data for amounts of silver coined is only available for London and Canterbury. All other rarity values are empirical. So to answer your question with my thoughts. It looks like the earlier pieces were lower mintage, but circulated less if typically found in higher grades. If the Newcastle 10s are more common, how does that tie in with larger production and troop movements given we did spend a lot of time fighting the Scots at this time. Sorry, I have too much to do, to do the spadework here. Just a thought.

Thanks, I'll try to work it into my next paycheck.

It should calculate it as £2 flat-rate for all deliveries to international addresses. I send the international ones from Germany as it's much, much cheaper than from the UK.

I was just re-reading this old post, and I still can’t get my head around the scale of these numbers!