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Yes, I don’t think halfpenny harp strings are a thing I’m planning to get sidetracked by…very happy to read about Gaz’s upcoming discoveries though
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Looking carefully at this tiny coin, it definitely has six thick strings with possibly a lozenge or raised pellet shaped stop at the front of the strings. Could this be of significance! It looks lozenge shaped but through two loops on top of each other it’s impossible to make the shape out perfectly.
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Stuart. For your own sanity, stay calm. Jackson - Kent spent 10 years analysing the string numbers on W3 coin harps only to conclude at the end of it that there was no significance. Personally, it makes more sense for the stops to be personal privy marks as an engraver id, as there are a number of types used, but thick string or thin string in varying quantities is never going to fly given die degradation. Stops however, are rarely confused.
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Not my coin. This one has quite a bit of doubling to the harp and shield but sill only the five strings, so possibly as coinery says maybe the strings were added after the shield, really difficult on a coin so small though.
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I believe the slight double strike is definitely a possibility, I’m sure the penny should have seven strings, so six strings on the penny is an odd one. I suppose when cutting the die on something so small is quite easy to make the mistake, like you say coinery anything is possible. I have had a good search but can’t find any half’s with the six strings so hopefully another one will come along 👍 Thanks for the input guys.
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If I get it in change, I would likely put it aside with the other "less common" two pounds and 50p coins. But I wouldn't give anything over face value.
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Paddy started following Perry Cook and Shakespeare 2016 £2 coin
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When I had a market stall 5 years ago, this one seemed to be the least common of the Shakespeare series and commanded a slight premium in top condition (£4-5). I suspect a batch has recently come out of the Royal Mint's back log of £2 coins as a number have turned up in change.
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Not rare, so how many would you like? Value, £2 face but little if any in a premium given the 2 black marks on the reverse and numerous obverse bagmarks. Somebody desperate for an example might pay £3, but not likely.
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Having said that, the strings are likely added separately from the harp punch itself, so anything is possible I guess?
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Hey, Gaz, I did take a look at my own example but, even under the loupe this morning, I couldn’t confirm the number of strings on mine, due to strike weakness. There is this post… …where Rob’s and Jelida’s examples show 5 strings. I did notice however that Coys’ Penny, shown in the same thread, displays a harp with six strings. I can’t imagine that the 1d harp punch hasn’t at some point been shared across the denominations?
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As you say, this is a short-cross London penny of Henry II…minted by PIERES ON LVND
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Despite numerous refreshes, both last night AND today, I just can’t get the reverse to load beyond what you’re seeing here!
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Marked by the red lines are areas of the sheild and harp that appear to be doubled. Is this the cause of an apparent 6th string I'm not sure maybe?
- Yesterday
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Chris Perkins replied to kuhli's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
I have a couple of copies in the "Archive". I remember having brief email contact with Roger Keenan (I think) but it was 20+ years ago and I no longer have any details. -
Welcome @perry123986cook to the forum. 2008 was the year of the change over from the portcullis design to the broken shield issue. See https://www.royalmint.com/collect/collector-resources/uk-coin-mintage-figures/1p-mintage-figures/ for the figures - about 180 million of this design and another 507 million of the new one. So sadly not scarce or an error!
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Has anyone come across the half penny having six strings to the harp. I believe it should only have five, the strings are also very thick possibly a double strike but looking at the rest of the harp I’m not so sure.
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It’s almost unbelievable that the BNS allowed unchallenged publication of this blog which I feel is a mass of A.I. pseudoscience and unproven ‘evidence’ from which unjustifiable conclusions are presented as fact! Will they publish my learned study demonstrating that pixies have set up a mint at the bottom of my garden? A.I. has found lots of photographic evidence, and Donald Trump says it’s the ‘greatest numismatic discovery ever’ apart from when he found his face on a gold dollar! (Obviously Trump didn’t actually use the word ‘numismatic’, I think that was posted by Harp). Jerry
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I remember being shown that coin. I told the person who sent the email pics that it was a mangled sixpence: "It looks like damage to me. Who knows what caused it and how much circulation it went through after the damage. Some damage can be hard to fathom. Maybe someone was trying to cover the SIX PENCE in order to pass it off as something else. It's possible I suppose that it did suffer some kind of defect when made and then someone made it worse, but either way, it's a bit of a mess. I really can't imagine anyone would be willing to pay more than the silver value for it. " Also here: https://britnumsoc.blog/2025/11/11/an-1834-william-iv-sixpence-with-a-laboratory-confirmed-multi-strike-error-from-the-steam-press-era-a-ikraam/https://britnumsoc.blog/2025/11/11/an-1834-william-iv-sixpence-with-a-laboratory-confirmed-multi-strike-error-from-the-steam-press-era-a-ikraam/ Erm, ok.
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Hi , I came across this £2 William Shakespeare coin. Looked like a rare one I seen online. The silver centre is not actually in the centre. seeing the prices they sell for. I certainly had a dell boy moment. Next year I will be a millionaire. looking for your advice and expertise on this coin please!
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I have put pennies into acid baths on numerous occasions (for serious purposes at work and not fooling about.) The edge would invariably thin out first. Even for the sake of argument that someone were to use a wax to protect the edge, an acid would still "smooth out" the surface marks. I can't see how the design has nearly disappeared with so many surface marks left. Then there is the flattened date. Acid won't do that.