How many 20thC micro-collectors are there?

[Peter]

I hope the move is for the better I'm type 2 diabetic but the only noticeable effect is if I eat Chinese food with a load of booze I feel awful so now I alternate.

[Gary1000]

I hope the move is for the better I'm type 2 diabetic but the only noticeable effect is if I eat Chinese food with a load of booze I feel awful so now I alternate.

I am similarly aflicted but have not tried that combination for many years. I had noticed that even a relatively small amount of booze makes me feel tom dick, I put it down the the Metaformin.

Edited April 24, 2013 by Gary1000

[Colin G.]

Found a reference to modern methods, but is at least relevant to UK coin production and I suspect the basics won't have changed that much.

Making dies.

Thanks, Nick, I did read that one, but tuned-out when it mentioned graphics and computers. It would be fantastic to read a 'history of' type work! When the last hand sunk die was created, when the switch to reduction methods came about, when the last mechanical (non-computer) method was employed, and the process for each.

Somebody must have written something for the BNJ at some point, surely?

I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but there is a weighty tome explaining the entire working of the Royal Mint (c. 1870) in excruciating detail (and I really do mean that) which may contain some useful information. If not, it's a handy cure for insomnia.

The publication is "The Royal Mint by George Frederick Ansell" and you can download a PDF free from Google books. The pages relating to matrices, punches and dies are 63-67.

Thanks Nick I will have a look through

[Peckris]

Thanks, Peck, much appreciated! I hope the move's a positive thing, and goes well!

I hope the move is for the better I'm type 2 diabetic but the only noticeable effect is if I eat Chinese food with a load of booze I feel awful so now I alternate.

Thank you both

Peter, as in "booze booze booze Chinky booze booze booze"?

Edited April 24, 2013 by Peckris

[davidrj]

1918KN penny with bird's foot flaw - DG says present in other years but I've not found any

Peck mentions it as a footnote, but not in Freeman

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I stand corrected Dave - 1922 penny on ebay- meant to bid on this but forgot. Flaw on both neck and ear are in the same postion as those on the 1918KN but this is a different obverse die. Must conclude that this micro variety is in fact a result of clashed dies

[Peckris]

1918KN penny with bird's foot flaw - DG says present in other years but I've not found any

Peck mentions it as a footnote, but not in Freeman

I stand corrected Dave - 1922 penny on ebay- meant to bid on this but forgot. Flaw on both neck and ear are in the same postion as those on the 1918KN but this is a different obverse die. Must conclude that this micro variety is in fact a result of clashed dies

Yes, it looks right for the folds in the drapery between Britannia's thigh and lower leg.

[Rob]

1918KN penny with bird's foot flaw - DG says present in other years but I've not found any

Peck mentions it as a footnote, but not in Freeman

I stand corrected Dave - 1922 penny on ebay- meant to bid on this but forgot. Flaw on both neck and ear are in the same postion as those on the 1918KN but this is a different obverse die. Must conclude that this micro variety is in fact a result of clashed dies

Yes, it looks right for the folds in the drapery between Britannia's thigh and lower leg.

So recessed ear types they are not. The illustrated has die clash earwax too.

[Nick]

1918KN penny with bird's foot flaw - DG says present in other years but I've not found any

Peck mentions it as a footnote, but not in Freeman

I stand corrected Dave - 1922 penny on ebay- meant to bid on this but forgot. Flaw on both neck and ear are in the same postion as those on the 1918KN but this is a different obverse die. Must conclude that this micro variety is in fact a result of clashed dies

You're right. The attached overlay shows (although not very clearly) that the features line up, so must be a die clash.

[Coinery]

1918KN penny with bird's foot flaw - DG says present in other years but I've not found any

Peck mentions it as a footnote, but not in Freeman

I stand corrected Dave - 1922 penny on ebay- meant to bid on this but forgot. Flaw on both neck and ear are in the same postion as those on the 1918KN but this is a different obverse die. Must conclude that this micro variety is in fact a result of clashed dies

You're right. The attached overlay shows (although not very clearly) that the features line up, so must be a die clash.

Really interesting thread! Good image, Nick!

Edit: Could have been very easy to forget to reverse the Britannia image first, before overlaying!

Edited June 7, 2013 by Coinery

[Nick]

1918KN penny with bird's foot flaw - DG says present in other years but I've not found any

Peck mentions it as a footnote, but not in Freeman

I stand corrected Dave - 1922 penny on ebay- meant to bid on this but forgot. Flaw on both neck and ear are in the same postion as those on the 1918KN but this is a different obverse die. Must conclude that this micro variety is in fact a result of clashed dies

You're right. The attached overlay shows (although not very clearly) that the features line up, so must be a die clash.

Really interesting thread! Good image, Nick!

Edit: Could have been very easy to forget to reverse the Britannia image first, before overlaying!

Oh yes, been there many times. It's even more confusing when the coin has an inverted die axis.

[davidrj]

You're right. The attached overlay shows (although not very clearly) that the features line up, so must be a die clash.

Nice one, thanks

[Accumulator]

You're right. The attached overlay shows (although not very clearly) that the features line up, so must be a die clash.

Very interesting Nick! It's not at all obvious until you show that overlay. One less mystery in the penny series.

[scott]

ahh the crows foot, not heard about that one for a while.

how come we are only covering 20th century anyway, what about the late 19th?

[Peckris]

You're right. The attached overlay shows (although not very clearly) that the features line up, so must be a die clash.

Very interesting Nick! It's not at all obvious until you show that overlay. One less mystery in the penny series.

So Peck's 'footnote' should really have been a thigh note?