1949threepence Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 This GEF 1860 with lustre (1 + C, F7, I think), is from the lady who is selling off her late husband's bun penny collection. It looks like he was a man who appreciated quality items, if what she's sold so far is anything to go by.Currently standing at £565 with 3 days to go at the time of posting, I would imagine it'll get a bit more. Someone here might be interested, possibly.Colin Cooke has one in not dissimilar condition for £1200 (ex Alderley collection)The border looks a bit haphazard though. To me anyway. link Quote
Accumulator Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) This GEF 1860 with lustre (1 + C, F7, I think), is from the lady who is selling off her late husband's bun penny collection. It looks like he was a man who appreciated quality items, if what she's sold so far is anything to go by.Currently standing at £565 with 3 days to go at the time of posting, I would imagine it'll get a bit more. Someone here might be interested, possibly.Colin Cooke has one in not dissimilar condition for £1200 (ex Alderley collection)The border looks a bit haphazard though. To me anyway. linkYes, I had noticed this coin and it's probably better than my example but maybe not quite good enough to justify an upgrade. Interesting that the border beads on mine are even more damaged/haphazard: Edited January 22, 2013 by Accumulator Quote
1949threepence Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Your F6 is like mine, Accumulator, with some of the actual beads themselves missing, presumably "knocked off" at some point. Shame. Quote
declanwmagee Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Your F6 is like mine, Accumulator, with some of the actual beads themselves missing, presumably "knocked off" at some point. Shame.Do you think knocked off, '49, or die fill? Quote
1949threepence Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Your F6 is like mine, Accumulator, with some of the actual beads themselves missing, presumably "knocked off" at some point. Shame.Do you think knocked off, '49, or die fill?I honestly don't know, Declan. Mine is shown below. As you can see, beads partially missing at between about 10 and 11 o'clock. As though chipped off. Whether caused by die fill or other external damage, just not sure. Only shown reverse as obverse beads complete. Quote
declanwmagee Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Your F6 is like mine, Accumulator, with some of the actual beads themselves missing, presumably "knocked off" at some point. Shame.Do you think knocked off, '49, or die fill?I honestly don't know, Declan. Mine is shown below. As you can see, beads partially missing at between about 10 and 11 o'clock. As though chipped off. Whether caused by die fill or other external damage, just not sure. Only shown reverse as obverse beads complete.Interesting! The damage looks the same type as the penny on Mr Accumulator's site, although I suppose if it was the same die, it would be the same beads filled... Quote
argentumandcoins Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 I was out at £800.£1500 for that example was a vast amount to pay. I couldn't quite give it UNC but it has made UNC money and I think the second highest recorded price for an F7? Quote
1949threepence Posted January 26, 2013 Author Posted January 26, 2013 I was out at £800.£1500 for that example was a vast amount to pay. I couldn't quite give it UNC but it has made UNC money and I think the second highest recorded price for an F7? The Laurie Bamford specimen sold for £1529 ~ not sure if that was the actual highest.The specimen on Colin Cooke's site, being offered for £1200, is comparable with the one just sold. Maybe not as much lustre, and just a suspicion of slight pitting on the obverse. Quote
Accumulator Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Oh well..... I was out at £1490! Lost by £20 but wonder what the buyer would have been willing to Pay? Quote
1949threepence Posted January 26, 2013 Author Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Oh well..... I was out at £1490! Lost by £20 but wonder what the buyer would have been willing to Pay?Close call ~ bad luck !!! edit: may have been a tactical error on your part to show your hand so early. I bet if you'd put in a last few seconds snipe you'd have got it at a much lower price. No doubt c***r made a manual snipe with 4 seconds to go. Edited January 26, 2013 by 1949threepence Quote
azda Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 I'm sure the seller will be happy. I did spot a few known penny names in the bidders list who do buy Top end pennies. We'll see who the winner is when FB is left though Quote
Accumulator Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Oh well..... I was out at £1490! Lost by £20 but wonder what the buyer would have been willing to Pay?Close call ~ bad luck !!! edit: may have been a tactical error on your part to show your hand so early. I bet if you'd put in a last few seconds snipe you'd have got it at a much lower price. No doubt c***r made a manual snipe with 4 seconds to go.You're right.... But I was out for dinner and I can't really sit in a restaurant bidding Quote
pies Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Oh well..... I was out at £1490! Lost by £20 but wonder what the buyer would have been willing to Pay?Close call ~ bad luck !!! edit: may have been a tactical error on your part to show your hand so early. I bet if you'd put in a last few seconds snipe you'd have got it at a much lower price. No doubt c***r made a manual snipe with 4 seconds to go.You're right.... But I was out for dinner and I can't really sit in a restaurant bidding If you use a sniper,Goofbay has a free one, set ur bid days in advance to snipe in last 5 secs Quote
Paulus Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Oh well..... I was out at £1490! Lost by £20 but wonder what the buyer would have been willing to Pay?Close call ~ bad luck !!! edit: may have been a tactical error on your part to show your hand so early. I bet if you'd put in a last few seconds snipe you'd have got it at a much lower price. No doubt c***r made a manual snipe with 4 seconds to go.You're right.... But I was out for dinner and I can't really sit in a restaurant bidding You pop to the loo with 2 minutes to go, isn't that what we all do? Quote
Accumulator Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Oh well..... I was out at £1490! Lost by £20 but wonder what the buyer would have been willing to Pay?Close call ~ bad luck !!! edit: may have been a tactical error on your part to show your hand so early. I bet if you'd put in a last few seconds snipe you'd have got it at a much lower price. No doubt c***r made a manual snipe with 4 seconds to go.You're right.... But I was out for dinner and I can't really sit in a restaurant bidding If you use a sniper,Goofbay has a free one, set ur bid days in advance to snipe in last 5 secsTrue, but the other bidder was most likely using a similar system anyway. I'm happy with my maximum, he was just prepared to pay more. Quote
Accumulator Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 True, but the other bidder was most likely using a similar system anyway. I'm happy with my maximum, he was just prepared to pay more. ....and then, the next day the self doubt kicks in and you wonder whether you shouldn't have bid just that little bit higher C'est la vie! Quote
pies Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 The advantage of the sniper is you stop people rebidding.I see it constantly on ebay,this coin is an example of people coming back to rebid.Just about anything of quality on ebay is won with a snipe bid Quote
Nick Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 The advantage of the sniper is you stop people rebidding.I see it constantly on ebay,this coin is an example of people coming back to rebid.Just about anything of quality on ebay is won with a snipe bid Whatever method you use and however late you bid, you've still got to beat the highest bid amount. Quote
azda Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 The advantage of the sniper is you stop people rebidding.I see it constantly on ebay,this coin is an example of people coming back to rebid.Just about anything of quality on ebay is won with a snipe bid Whatever method you use and however late you bid, you've still got to beat the highest bid amount.Plus there are people who put in theirmax bid at the beginning Quote
pies Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I woud like to know the percentage of auctions won with bids in first minute compare to bids in last seconds Quote
Nick Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I woud like to know the percentage of auctions won with bids in first minute compare to bids in last seconds The when is not relevant, it's the maximum amount that counts. Most people bid near the end to prevent an early high bid from being shilled, but a large enough bid in the first second will still win if it's greater than everbody else's maximum. Quote
argentumandcoins Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 True, but the other bidder was most likely using a similar system anyway. I'm happy with my maximum, he was just prepared to pay more. ....and then, the next day the self doubt kicks in and you wonder whether you shouldn't have bid just that little bit higher C'est la vie!As I said earlier Steve £800 was to be my max and the coin was to replace a GVF in the collection. There looked to be wear to the high points which drags it down to GEF. At £1500 you are on very thin ice if the pics flatter the coin and the best bet with ebay is to bid at half a grade below what you think it looks like as that saves you from getting burnt.£1500 should secure a true unc in a major house auction. Quote
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