Opinions of this Crown

[azda]

Opinions of this crown, the REV legend looks suspicious, like the Northumberland Shillings where the tops are missing off the serifs..................Use the magnified view for a better look, also the OBV looks as though it has a few cast holes?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XXXX-RARE-1696-WILLAIM-III-OCTAVO-SILVER-CROWN-5-UK-BRITAIN-COIN-VF-gVF-S-3472-/230850856924?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item35bfc887dc

[Coinery]

Opinions of this crown, the REV legend looks suspicious, like the Northumberland Shillings where the tops are missing off the serifs..................Use the magnified view for a better look, also the OBV looks as though it has a few cast holes?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XXXX-RARE-1696-WILLAIM-III-OCTAVO-SILVER-CROWN-5-UK-BRITAIN-COIN-VF-gVF-S-3472-/230850856924?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item35bfc887dc

It doesn't really leap out at me, but I agree the reverse devices look soft/mushy.

There do appear to be a few pin-pricks, but they can also exist on the genuine article, so not conclusive. Also, I've had a couple of these earlier crowns, where the ends of the legends have faded/disappeared towards the rim.

The edge looks weird (seam-like), however, though I'm assuming this is the cut-out software, rather than the coin itself.

For me, just to put some reverse psychology on it, if I was wanting to buy it as a good-quality counterfeit, I wouldn't get too excited about it until I had it in hand!

Edited December 12, 2012 by Coinery

[Coinery]

I know this one's a little more corroded/pitted, but it would probably have been good in its day I reckon.

[Red Riley]

Opinions of this crown, the REV legend looks suspicious, like the Northumberland Shillings where the tops are missing off the serifs..................Use the magnified view for a better look, also the OBV looks as though it has a few cast holes?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XXXX-RARE-1696-WILLAIM-III-OCTAVO-SILVER-CROWN-5-UK-BRITAIN-COIN-VF-gVF-S-3472-/230850856924?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item35bfc887dc

It doesn't really leap out at me, but I agree the reverse devices look soft/mushy.

There do appear to be a few pin-pricks, but they can also exist on the genuine article, so not conclusive. Also, I've had a couple of these earlier crowns, where the ends of the legends have faded/disappeared towards the rim.

The edge looks weird (seam-like), however, though I'm assuming this is the cut-out software, rather than the coin itself.

For me, just to put some reverse psychology on it, if I was wanting to buy it as a good-quality counterfeit, I wouldn't get too excited about it until I had it in hand!

The edge can be discounted as this has clearly been created by removing the background colour and pasting onto solid black but strange you would want to do that given the flat and toneless nature of the coin itself. I don't think it appears obviously cast but still a pretty grim looking coin.

[Peter]

Looks too bright and appears cleaned.

Nasty.

[Peckris]

Looks too bright and appears cleaned.

Nasty.

Agreed - it really doesn't look 'right'. It could be fake, or it could be just a pallid genuine. Even if genuine, the price is absurd. I'd want one clearly better than VF for £450, and that one just isn't. Drab drab drab.

[Rob]

Totally drab as said previously. If a cast, then the edge would probably be plain, and/or there would have to be the remains of the sprue. If you can add the edge reading to a coin, I think it unlikely to be a cast.