Robinson Cutler Token

[Sheencrofter]

This is my first topic since joining this site so I hope it looks ok.

I bought this token yesterday and it is of interest to me because I used to live near Oxford many years ago.

On the obverse it reads Robinson Cutler Oxford, England. Also there is a picture of who I believe to be George III and it does have III above his head.

There is a faint Britania on the reverse but there is no date on the token.

The token weighs 17'2 grams and measures 35 mm.

So far I have managed to do the following research.

Sarah Robinson

born 1791

Shop at 46 Cornmarket, Oxford.

Shown re index a below as being in shop from 1939-1946

1841 census - No. 46 is occupied by the cutler Sarah Robinson (50) and John (25), Jane (20), Sarah (15), and Jemima (13)

index a

http://www.oxfordhistory.org.uk/cornmarket/west/45_46.html

If anyone has anymore info on this token I would be really interested to hear from them.

[Peckris]

This is my first topic since joining this site so I hope it looks ok.

I bought this token yesterday and it is of interest to me because I used to live near Oxford many years ago.

On the obverse it reads Robinson Cutler Oxford, England. Also there is a picture of who I believe to be George III and it does have III above his head.

There is a faint Britania on the reverse but there is no date on the token.

The token weighs 17'2 grams and measures 35 mm.

So far I have managed to do the following research.

Sarah Robinson

born 1791

Shop at 46 Cornmarket, Oxford.

Shown re index a below as being in shop from 1939-1946

1841 census - No. 46 is occupied by the cutler Sarah Robinson (50) and John (25), Jane (20), Sarah (15), and Jemima (13)

index a

http://www.oxfordhistory.org.uk/cornmarket/west/45_46.html

If anyone has anymore info on this token I would be really interested to hear from them.

Welcome to the forums Sheencrofter

I have no information on your token, but it is an interesting piece, not your run of the mill token. Have you a copy of Dalton and Hamer in your local library?

[ski]

I have no information on your token, but it is an interesting piece, not your run of the mill token. Have you a copy of Dalton and Hamer in your local library?

i think that just about sums up everything that is sooooo good about this forum, an honest answer and a referance to help find more info......brilliant.

[seuk]

Don't think you will find it in Dalton & Hamer. As far I can see its an advertising token made by punch marking a regal penny. Here's two similar sold on ebay:

1

2

I'm a bit suprised by the low prices - seems like an interesting collecting area and a cheap one as well

[Sheencrofter]

Thanks to all for the info.

I have this out on another forum elsewhere and it does now seem as though it is a George III halfpenny that has been punched by the Robinsons as a form of token or advertising.

It seems, for anyone interested in tokens, there is a good book by Dr Gregory Brunk who is somewhat of an expert on the subject. I have yet to find the name of the book, but when I do, I will post it on here.

Although I collect and deal mainly in coins, after finding the history on this one, I think I will start looking into tokens and Jetons as well.

[HistoricCoinage]

Thanks to all for the info.

I have this out on another forum elsewhere and it does now seem as though it is a George III halfpenny that has been punched by the Robinsons as a form of token or advertising.

It seems, for anyone interested in tokens, there is a good book by Dr Gregory Brunk who is somewhat of an expert on the subject. I have yet to find the name of the book, but when I do, I will post it on here.

Although I collect and deal mainly in coins, after finding the history on this one, I think I will start looking into tokens and Jetons as well.

Indeed, it's a stamped halfpenny.

With regard to the book, Dr Brunk published: "Identifying Coins Medals & Tokens: Late Antiquity to Modern Times" in the 1990s.

However, I suspect that you will want: "Merchant and Privately Countermarked Coins: Advertising on the World's Smallest Billboards" published in 2003. Although it looks as if he specialises in North American tokens. It can be quite expensive to acquire, by the looks of it.

[seuk]

Here's another one

[bhx7]

Thought I would revive this thread as it already has information regarding this counter marker. Here is a 1797 George III penny with the business information of Robinson's Oxford a Cutler and Razor Maker. I got this today as a pure curio. I also noted that of all the examples of this I managed to find online, I haven't seen another with a date stamped on reverse, most usually being only stamped on one side.

[Garrett]

Interesting.  Strange to think the coin would have been so worn by 1838.  Might have had a helping hand.... ? 

cheers Garrett.

[bhx7]

Hi Garrett

From what I have managed to find, which is very little, there were two Cutler's named Robinson in Oxford around that time. Both next door to each other. The first one listed in the late 1820's and the second in about 1847, probably father and son. However it also appears that their business finishes in the early 1850's, but will have to do a lot more digging. If this is the case, and the date stamped into my coin is correct, then it seems that the older of the two started the counter stamping advertising, quite prolifically as well. Still lots of research to do.

Edited November 17, 2017 by bhx7

[PWA 1967]

36 minutes ago, bhx7 said:

Hi Garrett

From what I have managed to find, which is very little, there were two Cutler's named Robinson in Oxford around that time. Both next door to each other. The first one listed in the late 1820's and the second in about 1847, probably father and son. However it also appears that their business finishes in the early 1850's, but will have to do a lot more digging. If this is the case, and the date stamped into my coin is correct, then it seems that the older of the two started the counter stamping advertising, quite prolifically as well. Still lots of research to do.

Its not an open 3 Brian 

Good to see you posting again and hope your ok.

Pete.

[bhx7]

1 minute ago, PWA 1967 said:

Its not an open 3 Brian 

Good to see you posting again and hope your ok.

Pete.

Definitely not Pete. Yeah getting back to it, took me ages to catch up with all the posts I've missed. Some great new topics and threads may I add.?