azda Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 I'm not liking the right hand side of this OBV..........Comments welcome...........No mount marks and weighs 15.2g Quote
Rob Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Tooled to b*****y. The wear on the portrait should be indicative of what you would expect the fields to be. Horribly bright with tell-tale gouges to both sides. How was it described? I bet it didn't have a very full or accurate description. This is close to melt value (assuming it is silver). Someone's having a laugh - at your expense. Quote
azda Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 There was no mention tooling in the Description, i did'nt like it as soon as i saw it in hamd and will email the auction house about it and hopefully Return it as not described. Quote
Rob Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 There was no mention tooling in the Description, i did'nt like it as soon as i saw it in hamd and will email the auction house about it and hopefully Return it as not described.Where did it come from and what was the lot description? Any auction house with a sense of decency would have said tooled at least. With all due respect to Scott, this one is in his territory and budget. Quote
azda Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 Ausländische Münzen EUROPA ENGLAND - Königreich George II., 1727-1760. 1/2 Crown 1746, VICESIMO.S. 3696 RR ! Rdf., Felder poliert, ssExact description Quote
Rob Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Ausländische Münzen EUROPA ENGLAND - Königreich George II., 1727-1760. 1/2 Crown 1746, VICESIMO.S. 3696 RR ! Rdf., Felder poliert, ssExact descriptionEdge marks and polished fields are described, so you might have a job saying not as described, but will probably get away with it as it doesn't say tooled. The tooling scratches are the worst problem, but I wonder why you bought it in the first place with these. I hope you didn't pay too much. Basically, someone has taken an electric polisher with a fine point and attempted to buff up the fields giving the damage seen. Quote
azda Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 The tooling marks were'nt evident in the auction Gallery picture Rob. You can see the auction Gallery picture in coin aquisition of the week, a few pages back. You commented on it saying it may have been mounted with the few knocks around certain positions od the rim. Quote
Peckris Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 What a shame - after all, it is a rare item. Quote
azda Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 It is a pity Peck, but i knew as soon as i took My own pictures that it was buggered. I'll be emailing the auction house tonight after work and send them my pictures and see what they say. Quote
copper123 Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 what a lovely edge - shame about the rest of the messing about by foolish people though.thinking about it the person that caused the damage is probably dead though it look like it was done many moons ago Quote
Peter Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Not a LIMA too Which Auction house Dave? Quote
Rob Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 The tooling marks were'nt evident in the auction Gallery picture Rob. You can see the auction Gallery picture in coin aquisition of the week, a few pages back. You commented on it saying it may have been mounted with the few knocks around certain positions od the rim.The rim marks hit you in the face the minute you saw the coin. I didn't look very closely at the fields as the marks on the rim would have been enough to put anybody off on their own. Although not the commonest piece, it certainly isn't rare with a few examples passing through every year, virtually all of which are ok. Quote
azda Posted November 23, 2012 Author Posted November 23, 2012 Not a LIMA too Which Auction house Dave?It was a German one Peter, one which i'd bought from before without any problems and described pretty well, so was fairly dissapointed when this turned up. I've emailed them last night with my plate size pictures and see what they say. If they don't take it back it will have to go on the bay in an auction and let it go for whatever it goes for. Quote
Rob Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Being a proof only issue, most examples turn up at around the EF mark. At not even VF with tooling and rim marks I think you would struggle to get much more than the fine price for it - say a couple hundred. Quote
azda Posted November 23, 2012 Author Posted November 23, 2012 Being a proof only issue, most examples turn up at around the EF mark. At not even VF with tooling and rim marks I think you would struggle to get much more than the fine price for it - say a couple hundred.Well if they don't take it back Rob i'll have to take the hit unfortunately...........Will wait on their reply first and see what they say about it. Quote
1949threepence Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 There was no mention tooling in the Description, i did'nt like it as soon as i saw it in hamd and will email the auction house about it and hopefully Return it as not described.Very disappointing for you obviously, Dave. It's easy to be fooled with some pics, and this is maybe an object lesson in trying to get a detailed large one before you part with any money. Good luck in getting your money back, anyway. With all due respect to Scott, this one is in his territory and budget.No respect at all, actually. But definitely a shedload of condescension. Quote
Peterkin Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 There was no mention tooling in the Description, i did'nt like it as soon as i saw it in hamd and will email the auction house about it and hopefully Return it as not described.Very disappointing for you obviously, Dave. It's easy to be fooled with some pics, and this is maybe an object lesson in trying to get a detailed large one before you part with any money. Good luck in getting your money back, anyway. With all due respect to Scott, this one is in his territory and budget.No respect at all, actually. But definitely a shedload of condescension.EF DetailsTrench Art?Put the damn thing out of its misery Quote
Hussulo Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Thats a shame. Someone's ruined a rare coin. Even if it does town over the tooling will still be noticeable. \hope you get your money back azda, Quote
Peterkin Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I'm not liking the right hand side of this OBV..........Comments welcome...........No mount marks and weighs 15.2gI just had to post again on this topic. It's been bothering disturbing me that much.WHO? does that to a coin? What's the mental process that's gone through?It's COIN ABUSE. Quote
declanwmagee Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I know! Even if you'd got yourself an electric polisher, and you thought you'd try it on a coin, you'd try it on a 1967 halfcrown, not a 1746!If they even had a 1746 that more or less confirms that it was a coinie that did it. I don't understand it at all Quote
azda Posted November 24, 2012 Author Posted November 24, 2012 I doubt it was a collector, no collector in their right mind would abuse a rarity like that. Quote
Peterkin Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I doubt it was a collector, no collector in their right mind would abuse a rarity like that.I've got it!A woman scorned. Scary. It's like that film - Fatal Attraction. Quote
Peckris Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I doubt it was a collector, no collector in their right mind would abuse a rarity like that.I've got it!A woman scorned. Scary. It's like that film - Fatal Attraction.A Bunny Tooler Quote
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