victorian bun head pennies not aligned correctly

[chris]

i have an 1877 penny with what i would say is off 45 degree counter clockwise, is this a usual error for the bun head type coins?

Edited November 9, 2012 by chris

[Peckris]

i have an 1877 penny with what i would say is off 45 degree counter clockwise, is this a usual error for the bun head type coins?

45º is quite a big misalignment - not usual to find them that out of true. Worth keeping, but I don't know how valuable it is (probably only to those who collect such things).

[Accumulator]

i have an 1877 penny with what i would say is off 45 degree counter clockwise, is this a usual error for the bun head type coins?

I collect pennies but am not aware of anyone really collecting misalignments, other than as an interesting curio. To be honest, I rarely check alignment so whilst certainly not common, it's hard to accurately estimate rarity. Interesting all the same, and a good spot!

[Gary1000]

i have an 1877 penny with what i would say is off 45 degree counter clockwise, is this a usual error for the bun head type coins?

I collect pennies but am not aware of anyone really collecting misalignments, other than as an interesting curio. To be honest, I rarely check alignment so whilst certainly not common, it's hard to accurately estimate rarity. Interesting all the same, and a good spot!

I think if it was 180 degrees out it would cause more interest. I have a 1948 penny that is 160-170 degrees so nearly there.

[Paulus]

i have an 1877 penny with what i would say is off 45 degree counter clockwise, is this a usual error for the bun head type coins?

I collect pennies but am not aware of anyone really collecting misalignments, other than as an interesting curio. To be honest, I rarely check alignment so whilst certainly not common, it's hard to accurately estimate rarity. Interesting all the same, and a good spot!

I think if it was 180 degrees out it would cause more interest. I have a 1948 penny that is 160-170 degrees so nearly there.

Just checked mine, most are 360 degrees out ...

[scott]

got a halfpenny that is slightly out, cant remember where i put it to have a quick look though

[Peckris]

i have an 1877 penny with what i would say is off 45 degree counter clockwise, is this a usual error for the bun head type coins?

I collect pennies but am not aware of anyone really collecting misalignments, other than as an interesting curio. To be honest, I rarely check alignment so whilst certainly not common, it's hard to accurately estimate rarity. Interesting all the same, and a good spot!

I think if it was 180 degrees out it would cause more interest. I have a 1948 penny that is 160-170 degrees so nearly there.

Just checked mine, most are 360 degrees out ...

I have one that's 359º out - should I retire?

[Rob]

The early milled (pre-Soho), which normally has an inverted die axis, is interesting if 90 degrees or 45 degrees out (or possibly 22.5). I haven't made my mind up whether the bit that located the die in the press had 4, 8 or even possibly 16 sides yet, though the latter is unlikely. Small, but sufficient numbers turn up with about a 45 degree error to ask the question. A York transposed arms shilling confirms the multiple of 4 theory, being 90 degrees out.

[1949threepence]

i have an 1877 penny with what i would say is off 45 degree counter clockwise, is this a usual error for the bun head type coins?

As Peck says, many of them are out of true, but I've never seen a obverse/reverse misalignment of 45 degrees. That's huge. More usually 5 to 10 degrees.