Victoria Penny 1898

[King Kenny]

 

 

When I started working in 1974 I could afford to buy a few pennies from one of the mail order coin dealers. In those days you did not get a nice colour photograph of the coin you wished to buy, but rather just a brief description on a typed list.

I bought this penny for a few pounds. I was a little disappointed when it arrived because of the black spots on an otherwise good looking coin. I was, and still am puzzled as to what caused these marks. The uniform pattern looks like marks left from a pierced metal tray

[alfnail]

Did you know it's the 'bisect lines' 2nd numeral 8? Gouby marks as RARE in his latest pages. Looks like a Ba. 

[PWA 1967]

6 hours ago, alfnail said:

Did you know it's the 'bisect lines' 2nd numeral 8? Gouby marks as RARE in his latest pages. Looks like a Ba. 

Although a better picture would be good, i think its Ca which is rarer still.

Good investment " for a few pounds " king Kenny" 👍

[King Kenny]

Wow. I had no idea. Thank you both, that is very interesting. I looked it up in the Freemans book and thought it was an F149 1 + B. I have only just stared to investigate all of the variants and I have a lot to learn. That's OK because that is what it is all about. 

[King Kenny]

Here is a better image og the date. I can now see that the second number 8 is different from the first.

[terrysoldpennies]

I think that's a Gouby Ba narrower date type as Ian [ alfnail ]  says .     Terry  

 

[secret santa]

1 hour ago, King Kenny said:

I looked it up in the Freemans book and thought it was an F149 1 + B

Take a look at:

https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/victoria-bronze-reverses/

[King Kenny]

Thanks. I did look at the Pennywise site before, but I never thought I would encounter any of the varieties  mentioned and did not look too closely at my coins. It will take me a long time to digest all this information. The Pennywise site is very interesting and highlights so much information throughout all the years. I would go with the Ba, but what do I know? Well, more than yesterday.

[PWA 1967]

5 hours ago, King Kenny said:

Here is a better image og the date. I can now see that the second number 8 is different from the first.

That picture is much clearer and yes Gouby BP1898 Ba 

[secret santa]

4 hours ago, King Kenny said:

I did look at the Pennywise site before

Could you give me link please.

[King Kenny]

https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/

 

Ah. I got the name wrong, didn't I !

Edited April 21 by King Kenny

[secret santa]

I thought I had a rival............

[King Kenny]

No, not at all. It's all my fault.

[Coinery]

37 minutes ago, secret santa said:

I thought I had a rival............

Phew, thank goodness you don’t, this fella may have been a little too much for you!

[secret santa]

Love that book and film.

[Coinery]

34 minutes ago, secret santa said:

Love that book and film.

Absolute classic! 🙌

[Booky]

The black marks remind me of the striking pad on the side of old match boxes:

I also noticed some marks in the same area as the black blobs and wondered what they could be? They seem to be on the field but avoid the design and pass underneath the tripod shaft.

 

[King Kenny]

I have just looked at these marks under a strong light using a loupe. They seem to be surface marks as there is no is no indication of any scratching etc. Just another mystery.