Plugged coins

[Citizen H]

On 12/13/2025 at 3:14 PM, Paddy said:

I guess most "serious" collectors would avoid plugged coins, or any other damage. But if that is the only way you can fill a gap within budget, then go for it! 

I have a number of damaged coins in my collection - some with engravings in the field, some ex-mount, some hammered even missing fragments, but they will fill the gaps until and unless I can afford to replace them with something better.

Here, for example, is my William I penny. I would love to have one without the missing chunk, but until one comes along at a price I am happy with, it will stay with me.

Your Henry VII, by the way, is a lovely example apart from the plug.

I couldn't agree more, I didn't have a agenda when buying coins and not knowing anything I bought any items I found old and interesting .....and cheap 🤷I like Paddy's with chunk missing...It has character, I have a few that have chunks missing and others with holes that have been worn as a pendants..... one is in a really good condition easy to make out the king and letters... I guess this came to be as it was worn rather than in circulation.  👍  

[Citizen H]

On 12/13/2025 at 10:30 PM, Ukstu said:

Don't mind counterstamped stuff so much as it's an interesting field that you can research sometimes

Aha.. do tell more..I have a few and have been wondering where to go to discover more details out... any Ideas where to go? 👍

[Ukstu]

4 hours ago, Citizen H said:

Aha.. do tell more..I have a few and have been wondering where to go to discover more details out... any Ideas where to go? 👍

I suppose it depends what you've got to work with. EJ ❤ FD on a love token is not going to go anywhere. It just depends how much information you have to start with.

If you've got full names and a date you might be able to find something out but you are probably going to need a paid subscription to ancestry or some other Genealogy website and even then it might lead knowhere as there likely will of been more than one person with that name around the same period.

I got lucky with my cartwheel penny as it had the guys full name , rank and unit engraved into it. 

[Paddy]

Quite a few Counter-stamps are commercial. Many copper pennies were stamped with "Lloyds" and used as tokens for their paper. The Chinese used Chop marks to confirm authenticity or claim ownership.

Some were also governmental - indicating a re-valuation or the use in subsidiary or revolutionary organisations. Many early Caribbean coins are counter stamped versions of other country's money.

Engraving tends to be more personal, individual and so difficult to track down. When I first started collecting again in the early 2000s I picked up a cartwheel penny at an antiques shop, which, in the terms of the vendor, had been "Vandalised as someone's written all over the back" As a result it was cheap. The wording was something like "When this you see, think of me, J Bond 1827" - it was a transportation token created by or for someone about to be shipped to the colonies! I put it on Ebay, and it sold for a tidy sum, going to Australia. Sadly I no longer have a picture.

Here is a Brazilian 20 Reis counter stamped by the government to revalue as 40 Reis. 

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[Citizen H]

7 hours ago, Ukstu said:

I suppose it depends what you've got to work with. EJ ❤ FD on a love token is not going to go anywhere. It just depends how much information you have to start with.

If you've got full names and a date you might be able to find something out but you are probably going to need a paid subscription to ancestry or some other Genealogy website and even then it might lead knowhere as there likely will of been more than one person with that name around the same period.

I got lucky with my cartwheel penny as it had the guys full name , rank and unit engraved into it. 

Ah... its the counterstamps that I would like to pursue, I have some Reales that have various Chinese counterstamps that are believed to be merchant stamps...  the other 2 attached are British coins counterstamped to be used in other country's so looking to find out where?

[Paddy]

Here is one that is probably a transportation token, but because the message is less clear, one cannot be certain: