SiHawks Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Hi all - I am a relatively new to collecting coins and am trying to source a coin representing every ruler of England going back to Aethelred The Unready - I still have a few to go and appreciate that Edward VIII and Lady Jane Grey didn't have any coins minted during their reigns but does this apply to any other monarchs during this period eg Edmund Ironside, Edward V etc ? Thank you, Simon Quote
Paddy Posted April 21 Posted April 21 I have this excellent little poster that gives answers to questions like this. Probably still available online somewhere. This indicates only Edmund Ironside and Lady Jane Grey as the "No coins" examples. I had an earlier version of the chart years ago, which also showed Sweyn Forkbeard as impossible, but it seems that has changed. Edward VIII is possible if you go outside the UK. British West Africa and a few of the other Commonwealth Countries issued his coins in good numbers, though without his head, only his name. 1 Quote
SiHawks Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 (edited) Hi Paddy - thank you so much that is fantastic. I have found a version of it online and have ordered it already, thanks again for being so helpful. I did find this Edward VIII from Rhodesia with his head on it, Simon Edited April 21 by SiHawks Included photo Quote
Paddy Posted April 21 Posted April 21 That will fill the gap for you nicely, but do bear in mind it is a modern "fantasy" restrike as no Crowns were minted at the time. Quote
SiHawks Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 (edited) Thanks again Paddy - I didn’t realise that …. it was one of the very few low value coins I had purchased on eBay - I will look for a genuine issue to replace it. Edited April 21 by SiHawks Spelling Quote
Peckris 2 Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Edward VIII didn't have any coins OFFICIALLY issued, but the new brass 3d was issued to traders for them to try them out in slot machines. They were supposed to be returned but a few weerent so these are extremely rare and valuable. Also, there are rare proofs of many (all?) denominations, so it could be argued you can exclude him from the list. As for Lady Jane Grey, she is not included in many lists of official English monarchs - Edward VI had tried to disavow Mary and Elizabeth and nominated Jane as the nearest Protestant candidate. Even if you do allow her, 9 days was hardly enough time to prepare and issue coins!. 1 Quote
Sylvester Posted April 25 Posted April 25 Good luck finding Edward V coins, they exist but are exceptionally rare. Quote
Paddy Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) I believe the view from the British Museum is now that no coins can be definitively assigned to Edward V (the Prince in the Tower). Previously it was believed that the halved sun and rose mintmark corresponded to this period, but now they say that there is evidence the mintmark was used by Edward IV before his death and by Richard III with the Edward legend after he had assumed the throne. I saw this in a documentary a couple of years ago. Edited April 25 by Paddy amendment 2 Quote
Coinery Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) Apparently the gold angels are distinguishable, following die sequencing, which I guess could be possible with the silver coinage, too? There can’t have been too many dies? I’d be curious to know, though, how even when discovering that one dies comes before another, for an entire series, you can say the hammer fell on a particular flan after the death of a king? Edited April 25 by Coinery 1 Quote
pokal02 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I think if you had the groats S2146 and S2146A, one of them would be Edward V - but you wouldn't know which one (I've gone with S2146A, but could well be wrong!) Quote
Rob Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I think the only definitely attributable coins to Edward V are the angels. TWW made a good case for this. Quote
Peckris 2 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 7 hours ago, Rob said: I think the only definitely attributable coins to Edward V are the angels. TWW made a good case for this. I'm puzzled about this. Edward V was never crowned king, and during his brief spell as monarch Richard III would have controlled the Mint. After Bosworth it would have been moot anyway. Quote
Sylvester Posted April 29 Posted April 29 I'm inclined to think any Edward coins minted in Richard III's reign are posthumous Edward IV pieces. Quote
copper123 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 On 4/21/2025 at 6:35 PM, Peckris 2 said: Edward VIII didn't have any coins OFFICIALLY issued, but the new brass 3d was issued to traders for them to try them out in slot machines. They were supposed to be returned but a few weerent so these are extremely rare and valuable. Also, there are rare proofs of many (all?) denominations, so it could be argued you can exclude him from the list. As for Lady Jane Grey, she is not included in many lists of official English monarchs - Edward VI had tried to disavow Mary and Elizabeth and nominated Jane as the nearest Protestant candidate. Even if you do allow her, 9 days was hardly enough time to prepare and issue coins!. An unusual note to this is that he actually asked for a set of his own coinage and was refused it by the royal mint (though I am sure the rejust was actually refused by people right at the top ie the prime minister and royal family 1 Quote
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