Kipster Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Afternoon all, Quick question please. Looking through the Spink at the listings of George IV farthings, and it seems there's an "1822 -inv. A's legend." I've looked online and can't seem to find any reference to this, so any ideas please? I've had a look in Peck and can't see anything, and as the Freeman doesn't go back that early, any pointers gratefully received. Ta. Quote
DrLarry Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Kipster said: Afternoon all, Quick question please. Looking through the Spink at the listings of George IV farthings, and it seems there's an "1822 -inv. A's legend." I've looked online and can't seem to find any reference to this, so any ideas please? I've had a look in Peck and can't see anything, and as the Freeman doesn't go back that early, any pointers gratefully received. Ta. do you happen to have one? Quote
Kipster Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, DrLarry said: do you happen to have one? Unfortunately not, no. I'm trying to work out where an inverted A would fit into the legend. I assume it would be the U in GEORGIUS? Quote
Rob Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Welcome to the forum. I have no idea as I've not seen one, but can't see it being a barred U. Maybe an A over an inverted A (or two)? I can't see it reading GRVTIV or BRITVNNIVR, as that would make the 6 o'clock news. 1 Quote
DrLarry Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kipster said: Unfortunately not, no. I'm trying to work out where an inverted A would fit into the legend. I assume it would be the U in GEORGIUS? it is not one I have ever looked for there is nothing on Colin's about farthings website under George IV ...there is I think a dot after the date variety ....maybe Spink made an error !!! Edited January 4, 2023 by DrLarry Quote
DrLarry Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 18 hours ago, Kipster said: Unfortunately not, no. I'm trying to work out where an inverted A would fit into the legend. I assume it would be the U in GEORGIUS? yes I imagine it can only be on the U that the inversion might have occurred there is nothing much else in this series legend it could be. There seem to be a few errors in this series unless the engraver was making a statement on the the king GEORGI ASs satirical humour in this era was well established, not the greatest respected 19th C kings Quote
Kipster Posted January 5, 2023 Author Posted January 5, 2023 It set me on Columbo mode and trawled through god knows how many pages of the interweb looking for it. Funnily enough, I did find mention of it briefly on a page somewhere in the universe but like an idiot I didn't favourite the page to have a proper look at. Maybe you're right, maybe Spink have got it wrong, seeing as Peck doesn't seem to mention it (unless I skimmed it). Quote
Martinminerva Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Suspect it is a slight Spink confusion for un-barred A's in Britanniar, which is sometimes erroneously referred to in the literature as inverted V's. It is just die wear or die fill, and happens a lot in the Georgian and Victorian copper farthing series. See, for example, http://www.farthingshalfpennyerrors.com/george-iv-farthing-1822-un-barred-a-in-britannia-obverse-1-raised-midribs/ Quote
DrLarry Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Martinminerva said: Suspect it is a slight Spink confusion for un-barred A's in Britanniar, which is sometimes erroneously referred to in the literature as inverted V's. It is just die wear or die fill, and happens a lot in the Georgian and Victorian copper farthing series. See, for example, http://www.farthingshalfpennyerrors.com/george-iv-farthing-1822-un-barred-a-in-britannia-obverse-1-raised-midribs/ that sounds a better idea than the A for a U Quote
Kipster Posted January 7, 2023 Author Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 1:09 PM, Martinminerva said: Suspect it is a slight Spink confusion for un-barred A's in Britanniar, which is sometimes erroneously referred to in the literature as inverted V's. It is just die wear or die fill, and happens a lot in the Georgian and Victorian copper farthing series. See, for example, http://www.farthingshalfpennyerrors.com/george-iv-farthing-1822-un-barred-a-in-britannia-obverse-1-raised-midribs/ On 1/5/2023 at 8:02 PM, DrLarry said: that sounds a better idea than the A for a U Thanks both. Probably the reason why. Much obliged. Quote
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