TOY COINS

[copper123]

[kai1998inc]

On 2/16/2024 at 2:49 PM, DrLarry said:

Yes of the few George individual ones I have £20 to£40 per coin a set I don't think I've ever seen.   Take some pictures kai 

Here are some photos of the coins.

Edited February 22, 2024 by kai1998inc

[kai1998inc]

[copper123]

I bought a mixed lot off ebay recently and amongst them was this little coin made by moore around 1849 presumably for export over the pond  its in a small size and features a gothic head of victoria with a crown on and calafornia half dollar on the reverse not sure if this is listed in rogers butn I know there are other similar mules as I have one.

I also inclue a picture of the regular large size half dollar that is much more common for reference.

Hope someone with a copy of roger's book can help

[copper123]

[copper123]

On 2/22/2024 at 7:57 PM, kai1998inc said:

Are those three pence coins the same size as the shillings or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

[copper123]

22 hours ago, copper123 said:

Are those three pence coins a smaller size to the shillings or are my eyes playing tricks on me? The penny looks quite large as well

 

[copper123]

Promised scan of the other Moore half dollar (Large size)

[kai1998inc]

On 3/31/2024 at 7:26 PM, copper123 said:

I bought a mixed lot off ebay recently and amongst them was this little coin made by moore around 1849 presumably for export over the pond  its in a small size and features a gothic head of victoria with a crown on and calafornia half dollar on the reverse not sure if this is listed in rogers butn I know there are other similar mules as I have one.

I also inclue a picture of the regular large size half dollar that is much more common for reference.

Hope someone with a copy of roger's book can help

This curious mule is listed in Rogers as Rogers 2467. It is a nice piece to have existed as it proves that the American Model series was made by Joseph Moore, as the Obv die is the same as the Royal Medalet series.

The size difference is not quite correct, as the other model coin you show is a Half Eagle ($5.00) rather than a Half Dollar.

[kai1998inc]

On 3/31/2024 at 7:30 PM, copper123 said:

Are those three pence coins the same size as the shillings or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

They are indeed smaller. The series ranges in size from 13mm down to 9.6mm for the Threepences.

[copper123]

Thanks for the info Kai good information is hard to come buy on the internet  it really is annoying not having a copy of Rogers.

 

[kai1998inc]

29 minutes ago, copper123 said:

Thanks for the info Kai good information is hard to come buy on the internet  it really is annoying not having a copy of Rogers.

 

No problem. A copy did come up on eBay a few weeks ago but has since sold or been ended. Think it was up for about £200.

[copper123]

2 hours ago, kai1998inc said:

No problem. A copy did come up on eBay a few weeks ago but has since sold or been ended. Think it was up for about £200.

Yes I was watching it and annoyingly enough it just disappeared 

[copper123]

Heres an interesting "Mule " model lauer gold coin dated 1887 when it should be at least five years after that.

Not in the best of grade but I would like to wager there are very few around 

[copper123]

Here's another rare mule model coin I found in a mixed lot 

As you can see its an Edward double florin which to my knowledge does not even exist in the edward 1902 set anyway it,  so I am sure its a mule - anyone with a copy of rogers book could they please check its in there , thanks ,

Anyway the pics 

Edited May 23, 2024 by copper123

[kai1998inc]

12 hours ago, copper123 said:

Here's another rare mule model coin I found in a mixed lot 

As you can see its an Edward double florin which to my knowledge does not even exist in the edward 1902 set anyway it,  so I am sure its a mule - anyone with a copy of rogers book could they please check its in there , thanks ,

Anyway the pics 

Not listed by Rogers - I’ve only seen 1 other (in my own collection). Presumably fairly scarce.

[copper123]

Sounds like a few of the rarities in your collection need airing on here kai , we all need an idea of what to look out for .

Funny thing is even though its very rare you would probably only get £15 for it max .

Thanks for getting back so quick and also for your great knowledge 

[kai1998inc]

1 hour ago, copper123 said:

Sounds like a few of the rarities in your collection need airing on here kai , we all need an idea of what to look out for .

Funny thing is even though its very rare you would probably only get £15 for it max .

Thanks for getting back so quick and also for your great knowledge 

No problem, agreed on the valuation -  a shame if you're selling, but perhaps not if you're collecting.

Here is another toy/model coin that is seldom seen - only the third example I have seen. Likely made by Joseph Moore, and mentioned in a comment in Rogers, but not listed (although he does have an example in his collection in the Fitzwilliam, so perhaps his example was acquired after publication?).

Model Four Pence with the Arms of Birmingham.

 

[kai1998inc]

Another curiosity - a perhaps 'model sovereign' signed under the bust 'LAUER' but larger than his usual 12.5mm toy coins, as this piece is 22.0mm (same as a Sovereign). Whether you could call it a model coin is debatable, but I have it as it is signed Lauer.

[copper123]

Such interesting coins and from their dates quite late in moore's career I must admit I prefer Moores output to Lauers 

[copper123]

Just discovered another new variety of Lauer's model coins this time its a Half crown 1897 quite a scarce coin anyway I have both varieties one reads HALF CROWN and the other HALF  ROWN in other words the "C" is missing .

Anyone any idea if its listed?

[kai1998inc]

59 minutes ago, copper123 said:

Just discovered another new variety of Lauer's model coins this time its a Half crown 1897 quite a scarce coin anyway I have both varieties one reads HALF CROWN and the other HALF  ROWN in other words the "C" is missing .

Anyone any idea if its listed?

It is listed as Rogers 609. I believe it was caused by the C getting filled on the die, so one could argue it is an error and not a variety, but Rogers does list it separately.

 

[copper123]

Both coins are in lowish sort of grades so it would be foolish to say if they were a filled die or not , you would have to find several much higher grade coins to say with any certainty , shows I spotted it as well though doesn't it?

[copper123]

Would you believe it I have found another "Mule" in my recent buy on ebay.

This time its a quarter sov and a half farthing mule struck on a brass flan , really interesting

[copper123]

7 hours ago, copper123 said:

Would you believe it I have found another "Mule" in my recent buy on ebay.

This time its a quarter sov and a half farthing mule struck on a brass flan , really interesting

This of course makes it one of the very few coins with two different dates on it 1848 and 1849