1863 penny stumpy 'Y'.

[Crook 1888]

Hello, I'm new to the forum but been a novice collector for a while. 

 

I have this 1863 penny in my collection which has a short 'Y', sorry for the poor picture quality. I'm wondering if anyone has seen one before? 

 

 

[terrysoldpennies]

I've never come across that type before , it looks like a halfpenny Y has been used in error , Nice find a new unlisted type.  There is an 1861 with a normal Y over a small Y. Pic below

 

[jelida]

I think it is worth some better pics here. I am not sure about the underlying ‘small’ letters and numbers we often see with overstrikes and repairs,  I do wonder if the worn digits were closed in slightly by working the die prior to punching the repair to ensure the repair is sharp. Any evidence of this would likely subsequently be removed by polishing the die to restore the field.

I think this example could simply be due fill. The vertical leg of the Y looks short compared to the V section.

Jerry

[Peckris 2]

There's also damage to the adjacent N which looks as though it's been sheared bottom right, nearest to the Y. Not possible to see if it's pre- or post-production though.

[Crook 1888]

Thanks for the feedback. I've collected since being a kid, on and off, but know little beyond the basics- learning more recently, and finding the overstrikes and errors on the pennies very interesting. As you say Jelida, the stick is too short to even look like a Y. 

It's my most interesting Victoria penny though for it- I will try and get up a picture of the whole coin when I get the chance. 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2019 by Crook 1888

[1949threepence]

The Y of penny does seem to be affected sometimes. Take a look at the Incomplete Y on my F25:-

 

[1949threepence]

Another one on this F24:-

 

[PWA 1967]

They must of had a problem with the Y on the 1861 pennies as i have a F29 that has a restruck Y different to Terrys 

[Cliff]

Another view of the 1861 Y repair