Zo Arms Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Raven Coins said: Reverse E. Similar die fill. Edited March 27, 2024 by Zo Arms Additional Quote
Bernie Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 3 hours ago, Raven Coins said: Freeman 274, obverse 5 Reverse E Quote
Martinminerva Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 8 hours ago, Raven Coins said: Die fill to the E of Penny, yes, but different obv and rev combo (as Bernie says, this is a 5+E) to the E (or F) over B in BRIT pairs (4+G and 6+G respectively), and this one does not have that error. Suspect die fill (on any letter) is pretty common... What was being wondered is if there are more of the E over B 4+G and do they have the die fill? 1 Quote
Zo Arms Posted March 27, 2024 Posted March 27, 2024 52 minutes ago, Martinminerva said: Die fill to the E of Penny, yes, but different obv and rev combo (as Bernie says, this is a 5+E) to the E (or F) over B in BRIT pairs (4+G and 6+G respectively), and this one does not have that error. Suspect die fill (on any letter) is pretty common... What was being wondered is if there are more of the E over B 4+G and do they have the die fill? Exactly as Martin says. I should have been more concise in response. Apologies. Quote
The Bee Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Hi, Here is the obverse and reverse of 1861 Halfpenny along with the previously posted E over B. Bob kindly suggested I post it here for comparison purposes - I would have been a bit quicker but I've been side tracked reading some of the many informative halfpenny posts. There is so much that I couldn't find the E or F over B post history (which I know I've seen before!) - best therefore to tag it on the end. Halfpennies may be a bit less collectable than pennies - but the upside is of course (as everyone knows) that they are more affordable - or at least I've been finding them so ! I will try to identify some more from my trays and post any that I struggle with for feedback from the experts What does puzzle me though - given the immense variety in QV Bronze pennies and Halfpennies - I would expect a similar number of varieties with Farthings - possibly even more so, maybe I'm wrong but this doesn't seem to the the case. I guess fewer were produced and possibly the dies needed fewer repairs Best Regards ! 1 Quote
Zo Arms Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Thanks for bringing it over. Great to have them all in the same place. I think that the die crack over the F of F D confirms the same obverse die as Martin's. 1 Quote
The Bee Posted May 5 Posted May 5 F and E over B in Britt on 1861 Halfpenny Out of curiosity, I was comparing in a very basic way, the normal upper limb of the F and E (which is the "bit" we can see in the F and E over BRITT. Apologies if I've missed something but I do think they are quite different - for example the angle of the end of the upper limb \ . I wondered if we could use this to evidence that we have an F over B and an E over B ? Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 3/24/2024 at 12:02 PM, mrbadexample said: still favour the E/B based on the little pointy bit here: 1861 Halfpenny F or E ? I'd like it to be an, F but the angles look to more closely match an E ? Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1860 Halfpenny Reverse "REG" 1 A Hi, I think this is an E over E (in REG) ??? Best Regards 1 Quote
Zo Arms Posted May 7 Posted May 7 To my eyes, photo 4 says an F......... Used the camera from 2 different phones....... Quote
Peckris 2 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Farthings were 1) a lower priority due to being so small that people didn't study them too closely for die failures etc, 2) being so small, there was a greater proportion of protective rim, 3) (guess..) the dies didn't wear so quick? Quote
The Bee Posted May 8 Posted May 8 11 hours ago, Zo Arms said: To my eyes, photo 4 says an F......... Hi Bob, Is there something sticking out of the curve of the B ? Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted May 8 Posted May 8 9 hours ago, Peckris 2 said: Farthings were 1) a lower priority due to being so small that people didn't study them too closely for die failures etc, 2) being so small, there was a greater proportion of protective rim, 3) (guess..) the dies didn't wear so quick? Many thanks Peckris 2 2) sounds a good hypothesis which would drive 3) 1 Quote
The Bee Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Hi I had a read of Iain Dracott's 2021 article "New Varieties" in Coin News [many thanks Gary] In it he mentions an 1860 Halfpenny, 1 + A, "E" over L I wondered, does anyone have an example of an 1860 Halfpenny, 1 + A, "E" over L, or a photo of an example ? Very Best Regards Quote
Zo Arms Posted May 8 Posted May 8 6 hours ago, The Bee said: Hi I had a read of Iain Dracott's 2021 article "New Varieties" in Coin News [many thanks Gary] In it he mentions an 1860 Halfpenny, 1 + A, "E" over L I wondered, does anyone have an example of an 1860 Halfpenny, 1 + A, "E" over L, or a photo of an example ? Very Best Regards Must admit, I've not looked for an E/L combo, so had a look thru mine. Not found one but there is a bit of fudgery going on here. 3 Quote
The Bee Posted May 9 Posted May 9 12 hours ago, Zo Arms said: Must admit, I've not looked for an E/L combo, so had a look thru mine. Not found one but there is a bit of fudgery going on here What an amazing repair ! (some kind of partial letter punch) Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1938 Halfpenny Reverse - Post Mint Damage ? Wondered if this was another incidence of post mint damage Great to get your thoughts - especially on the "E" in Penny Very Best Regards Quote
Martinminerva Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) Indeed, just damage / gouges, either deliberate or accidental, and associated metal displacement - see how the H of Half and N of Penny have also "grown" extensions to their limbs. And the gouge in the field below the H has resulted in a raised "hook" at the end of the gouge. Glaciologists would call it terminal moraine !! Edited May 16 by Martinminerva Additions. 2 Quote
The Bee Posted May 17 Posted May 17 16 hours ago, Martinminerva said: terminal moraine !! Many thanks Martin, Always worth asking and confirming - but terminal moraine is very appropriate ! It still amazes me how easily the surface of bronze can be displaced in this way Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted June 2 Posted June 2 On 5/8/2025 at 7:24 PM, Zo Arms said: Must admit, I've not looked for an E/L combo, so had a look thru mine. Not found one but there is a bit of fudgery going on here. I managed to track down two examples of the "bit of fudgery" on the E in REG from the 1860 Beeded Halfpenny There is the the end of something sticking out at the top, but because the repair went wrong there is a break My other more worn example looks more like an L and so I do wonder if this might be the source of the E/L This example is clearly not an L. The only letter on a halfpenny that I can think might fit is a broken H I- with the foot of the H snapped off and right hand leg of the H removed. Any thoughts ! Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1879 Halfpennies just checking my ID's are correct ? Looking back at my original 1879, I think it's probably the state of the coin, but QV's forehead looks slightly different Best Regards 1 Quote
Zo Arms Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I'd agree with your pairings. Don't think I have 14 + O. Must admit, I've not looked at halfpennies properly, for a good few months now. Life's ups and downs got in the way. Huge relief to be single again tho. 😁😁. 2 Quote
The Bee Posted August 10 Posted August 10 Follow up to 1861 last 1 next to 1 Thought these pictures might be of interest ... 1 next to 1 is actually (I think) ... a trace of a 1 next to 1 over 1 or over a repaired 1 Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Just wanted to check these two A 1A (with slightly odd repair something sticking out under the E that's not an E) And 2 + C [not 4 + C as captioned] Great to get confirmation Very Best Quote
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