Halfpenny ID check

[Zo Arms]

Whilst we're here, does anyone have an F289,  62 over 26. Mentioned in the 2016 Freeman and recognised by Dracott in his 2021 update.

I think I've found an example and a little piccy to show what I think I see.

[Zo Arms]

[DrLarry]

4 minutes ago, Zo Arms said:

I don't think I've  one but I am always unsure with coins unless under the microscope.   It would be lovely to see one on a half penny 

[DrLarry]

here are a few of the errors so far in REV F OBV 4's 

 

A fascinating C  a RFG  blocked ; broken and replaced inner circles ; amd an R over R 

Edited October 18, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

I thought this one was quite appropriate for the times numerous repeat and broken inner circles in the upper  TORI   again on F 4  1861 

Edited October 18, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

REVERSE F OBVERSE 7 to be honest I cannot find too much to say about F 7 of the 11 I have the only  things I can find are a slightly rotated 1 over 1 and misaligned 6 over 6  the legend letters are often the "older" style curly letters which gives F 7 a nicely balanced appearance .  the legend is delicate so perhaps F 7 is the most harmonious for me at least.  But I am biased towards REV F apart from the devils claw holding the trident.  one example of PFNNY where the lower part is blocked.  

Edited October 18, 2022 by DrLarry

[mrbadexample]

22 hours ago, Zo Arms said:

Whilst we're here, does anyone have an F289,  62 over 26. Mentioned in the 2016 Freeman and recognised by Dracott in his 2021 update.

I think I've found an example and a little piccy to show what I think I see.

Would like to see a closer / better photo. Do you have it in hand yet?

[Zo Arms]

19 minutes ago, mrbadexample said:

Would like to see a closer / better photo. Do you have it in hand yet?

Not yet. Probably be a week or so before I receive it. A cropped sellers photo. Full images to follow, if that helps.

Bob.

 

[Zo Arms]

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[mrbadexample]

On 10/18/2022 at 8:05 PM, Zo Arms said:

Well I’m with you with 6/2 I think, and undecided on the last digit. 🙂

[DrLarry]

Reverse G   there appear to be many errors in this reverse with accompanying errors on the obverse.  I have tried to sort them into the following :  REV G legend errors; r G date errors ;  rev G with OBV errors; and OBVERSE errors.  There are a lot so I am going to do my best to image them and show the errors rather than the the whole surface.  I am happy to put up the complete image but the restriction in image size makes the process a bit long.  

 unbarred H with broken Top E of PENNY with OBV 7  Unbarred H also with OBV 6 

Edited October 20, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

slight differences in REV G

Whilst listing the last two broken H's I noticed differences in some aspects of the two.  On one the trident touches the mantle on one the trident is cut clear of the mantle , the modelling of the Trident head is slightly different and the hanging feathers of the helmet differ .

Edited October 20, 2022 by DrLarry

[Zo Arms]

11 hours ago, mrbadexample said:

Well I’m with you with 6/2 I think, and undecided on the last digit. 🙂

Thanks Jon. That's reassuring to know. I've finally found Rob's post that I was looking for, which shows an example.

I can't make out the 2 under the 6. More a 6 over 6. But I think that I can see the pointy end of the 6, above the centre line of the 2.

 

[Zo Arms]

Which brings me to this one, also within the forum. What appears to be a 6 over 6. However, I think that I can see evidence of an underlying 2, the diagonal of the 2, again in the circle of the 6. This may tie in Rob's example.   Although this may just be wishful thinking.

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Zo Arms
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[Peckris 2]

That's fascinating - I have a farthing of the same date with exactly the same effect (even more dramatic?):

[DrLarry]

Reverse G   Here are the date errors I have found so far :  1 over 1 first 1 in date where the 1 is LOW at the base  2 paired with OBVERSE 6  in this example with a 6 over 6  and a LOW second 1

Edited October 21, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

reverse G   1 over 1 above the first 1  I am not certain if it is the same error the gap in the directly above on the second is much deeper seems one is an obverse 6 the shallow  and obverse 7 the deep cut .  The shallow is associated in the example I have with a 1 over a 1 on the second 1 

Edited October 21, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

REV G 6 over 6   the first on an obverse 6 the second on an obverse 7 

Edited October 21, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

REVERSE G   2nd 1 over 1  1 below   obv 7

Edited October 21, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

REVERSE G OBVERSE 7  The last one I have is the 1 over 1 on the second 1 but the 1 is above the 1 ( #2) and one which is coupled with the 1 over 1 above the first 1 in the date ( this one is to the side ) both on a pairing with OBV 7 

Edited October 21, 2022 by DrLarry

[DrLarry]

PINNY 

There is a nice example of an error which like the HAIF comes about as the result of the damage to the E in PENNY on reverse G .  The E essentially appears as a PINNY and in the 1 I have it is associated with the Broken F in HALF  The F almost appears to be a remnant of a P than an F 

Edited October 21, 2022 by DrLarry

[mrbadexample]

On 10/20/2022 at 9:47 PM, Zo Arms said:

Thanks Jon. That's reassuring to know. I've finally found Rob's post that I was looking for, which shows an example.

I can't make out the 2 under the 6. More a 6 over 6. But I think that I can see the pointy end of the 6, above the centre line of the 2.

 

I can't see this. If I'd not been told otherwise I'd have thought this was a 6 over a slightly rotated 6. 

I thought I could see the diagonal of the 2 within the loop of the 6 when I looked at yours? Do I need new glasses?