UPINSMOKE Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Some weeks back I acquired these 3 Threepences they were not that expensive. But before I explain about them, I would like your opinions on them please. Please be brutally honest about what you think about each one and why? I will explain later. Quote
Paddy Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Not quite sure what you are expecting to hear! All three coins seem pretty good and whether they were good value will depend on how much you paid! The 1911 suffers from the familiar problem with threepences of more wear on the bust than anywhere else. Might benefit from a little soap and water. The 1898 is better but does have digs in the fields on either side. The 1877, as well as more wear on the bust, has been rubbed with something abrasive to give a mass of fine hairline scratches. I would be happy with any of them, depending on the price, unless maybe I was expecting them to be Maundy? I am not good at distinguishing Maundy from not but to me only the 1898 looks possible. 2 Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I love the toning on the 1898, and I'm not posh about digs too much so if it ever needs a new home... The 1877 seems like a "normal" example - I imagine it could look nicer with less harsh lighting (or in the hand). The George.. what do I know about George? 1 Quote
UPINSMOKE Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 Thanks for the comments. I will let you know that all of these were slabbed and rejected. The 1911 was for corrosion on the Obv, the 1898 was for being cleaned, and the 1877 was for also being cleaned. Quote
Paddy Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I never slab anything so I am unfamiliar with the issues. The 1877 I can agree their point. The 1911 maybe, but a bit harsh. The 1898 does not look particularly cleaned to me - at least not in an unpleasant way. Confirms my decision against slabbing I'm afraid! 1 Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I guess I have terrible taste in coins then, but I also agree with @Paddy - slabbing isn't something I'd do (without a very specific need for it) Quote
UPINSMOKE Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 I agree with everything you say I bought these coins slabbed I can't see how they thought they would get through the grading process well at least two of them anyway. I'm with you on the 1898 it doesn't look that bad. I do plan to break them all out of their coffins at some stage. But thanks again for all your input just wanted to see if anyone would spot if they were cleaned or not. Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On the George V is that the angle of the coin or are some letters bigger BRITT looks bigger and MN of OMN tall D and squashed D opposite I of Britt looks taller than I of IND ? Quote
UPINSMOKE Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: On the George V is that the angle of the coin or are some letters bigger BRITT looks bigger and MN of OMN tall D and squashed D opposite I of Britt looks taller than I of IND ? Hi I think its an optical illusion. I have broken the coin out of the slab and examined it closely and the letters are all the same size. Will work on the other slabbed coins tomorrow and take a closer look at them as well. 1 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 This may be a daft question as i dont know anything about them Why did you buy them when other people had given you the opinion they had problems ?. Are they scarce,hard to find or were they just cheap ? Quote
UPINSMOKE Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, PWA 1967 said: This may be a daft question as i dont know anything about them Why did you buy them when other people had given you the opinion they had problems ?. Are they scarce,hard to find or were they just cheap ? Hi pete I don't really know why i bought them ??? Just an impulse buy I think. They were there I was there and they were cheap I have no other defence my lord. At least I can now experiment getting them out of the slabs just in case I get one I really do need to break out. Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, UPINSMOKE said: Hi pete I don't really know why i bought them ??? Just an impulse buy I think. They were there I was there and they were cheap I have no other defence my lord. At least I can now experiment getting them out of the slabs just in case I get one I really do need to break out. Be gentle with the 1898, it'd be a shame to hurt that one. Quote
UPINSMOKE Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Unwilling Numismatist said: Be gentle with the 1898, it'd be a shame to hurt that one. I certainly will be careful with it. It's yours if your interested in it. PM me Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 On 19/03/2018 at 5:40 PM, UPINSMOKE said: As I'm the village idiot around here, could one of the wisened gentlefolk please let me know how you (or aforementioned grading company) came to the conclusion that this coin is "cleaned" please? I just don't see "it". Cheers! Quote
UPINSMOKE Posted March 25, 2018 Author Posted March 25, 2018 It maybe the fact that the Obv has a lovely tone whereas the Rev is toned but not the same. So perhaps that side was cleaned and left out to retone again, but what do I know I an only a beginner and having a guess. What till the experts come along. Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 Anyone else have any input on the "cleaned" status of the above 3d please - I'm very interested to understand. Cheers! Quote
Paddy Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 I am no expert, but as I suggested before - I would not accuse that one of being cleaned from the pictures. I suspect the grader saw the other two as cleaned and carried his mindset over to the third in the group. Graders are human too - another problem with the whole principle of putting one's faith in grading companies! Quote
UPINSMOKE Posted April 3, 2018 Author Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paddy said: I am no expert, but as I suggested before - I would not accuse that one of being cleaned from the pictures. I suspect the grader saw the other two as cleaned and carried his mindset over to the third in the group. Graders are human too - another problem with the whole principle of putting one's faith in grading companies! I am not sure the coins were graded together. I only bought them as odd lots on the same day. So would think these came from different sellers. So pretty sure these were not graded at the same time. Edited April 3, 2018 by UPINSMOKE Quote
Paddy Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 Then I can see no reason why they should put "cleaned" on that coin. Quote
zookeeperz Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Unwilling Numismatist said: Anyone else have any input on the "cleaned" status of the above 3d please - I'm very interested to understand. Cheers! Perhaps it has something to do with the luster or patina that we cannot see. When they put these under ultra violet lights I am guessing that if it has been cleaned there will be a flat area or dull patch. The pics prob don't show it. Just my thought But it looks fine from where I sit Quote
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