mick1271

I already offered £65 for it LOL .Don,t know how much it is approximately worth ,but I saw one that was described as near Fine sell at auction for £1100 (think it was LCA ).And this one is much better than that one .I do wish it was mine .

pity its not mine .the owner bought it a couple of years ago as a beaded border for £30 ,which would still be a great price .

I was asked to look at a friends pics of a penny he has ,I have came to the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that its an F9 BB/TB penny .any help would be greatly appreciated .

just to let you know ,Your two 1806 pennies have the same set of pictures .

Almost EF would be more like it .pricewise (still seems a bit steep ,if it was MS64) He seems to be selling the slab with its grading ,rather than the coin inside .He does have some really nice coins .

I did think it was a bit crude .

Thanks , I couldn't find a mint with the lettering thats visible .That would explain it .

Pics are not great ,need a book and a camera .

Some help required from the hammered buffs out there .Another hammered that I am having trouble identifying (really need to get a book )A bit beat up but has a lot of decent detail .

the 2nd seller has got back to me thanking me for telling him .hasn't been removed yet though .He said the same to me .must have wanted a 2nd opinion . glad he has removed it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-Elizabeth-I-Coin-Hammered/232447037726?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45564%26meid%3D0b4d6c54d5e04f288d313ad42e2328a7%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D162628582256&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-Elizabeth-I-Coin-Hammered/162628582256?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D45564%26meid%3D37da4aed1ea34ed79fa2bc137ce1626f%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D232447037726&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982 even more Lizzy hammered .have reported them.

Never even thought of it being a die clash .There are so many of them ,floating about the FB forums that I wrongly thought it was a ghosting design flaw .The last few years ,the RM's quality control has been nearly non existant .

It is called ghosting .The displacement of the metal when struck can show the design on either sign of the coin .Its normally caused by there being more metal on the raised design and the metal on the fields being thinner .Its simply the metal distorting when the coin is struck .Was common on the early George v pennies ,till they changed the design .I have seen quite a few of these on facebook forums ,so they probably are not a rarity .Its also possible that if its a design flaw ,that they all might have a bit of ghosting to some degree.

He has one of the Henry VIII from the scarcer WRL mint lol. he says its a facsimile ,the people that can't tell its a fake are the same type of people who would need to google facsimile .

I have a 1917 penny with a raised dot at the left of the date .Will need to dig it out and try and get a pic up.

and another http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-ELIZABETH-SIXPENCE-/282597669275?hash=item41cc22399b:g:JVwAAOSw2WBZg5Vq

I do like a good coin book .It sounds just what I need .

They are not normally what I collect,but I do like to trawl ebay picking up cheap unidentified detector finds to try and work out what they are .This one though ,had me stumped .will need to pick up a copy of a decent edward hammered book .

thank you , wouldn't have bothered me if it was a continental copy , but that's even better .I know its not the greatest of conditions , but for £2.84 ,I can't complain

Hoping I havn't wasted my £2.64 on it LOL.