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Here is the normal reverse. I have a few of these. Thanks

Hi All Just came across an unusual token. HME Birmingham produced a coin in the late 1950-60's with Obv: "HME Birmingham" with a coin press in centre. the Rev: with the phrase "If a Cincinnati Salesman can't match this coin he'll buy you a beer". My question is have any of you seen the same coin with the Britania Moneta obverse? It has definitely seen better days but found in a bag load of predominately machine tokens.

Just have to say that you have definitely gone up and beyond on this lot AardHawk. Well done. Eye strain is a definite...

Welcome to the forum. A great place with great people and lots of knowledge which the members are always willing to share, although some in grumpier ways than others , no names mentioned .

Thanks U.N.

Thanks Paddy that's a great start. I didn't think I would be as into the decimal side as I have found myself lately, although predecimal is still my main collection.

Just wondering if everyone could have a look at their proof sets containing the 1p's with Rev A and Rev B - 1972 to 1976, which AardHawk shows above, and state what they find. I am trying to substantiate my findings - First is that I noticed that the reverse B type seems to be acid etched/frosted on the design and legend with high polished ground, I did mention this once before briefly, whereas the reverse type A is just the same high polished finish throughout. I also found that in the sets with the Rev B 1p's the half pence also seems to be frosted. Lastly I am also trying to work out the ratio of type A & B within the differing years ( I know this is a big ask but even a small census may through up some insight) I know the frosted/cameo proof becomes standard in 1980 across all coins on both obverse and reverse. I just find it interesting that it started on the lower bronze coinage first, albeit the reverse of the coin. Thanks in advance

Just sat for the past few hours re-categorizing my pennies to fit in with yours AardHawk. I noted I had a few that differ from yours though: Proof 1985 - you have 4+C1 maybe a variant but I have 4+C2 1990 – you have 8+C2a mine is 8+E1 1991-1992 you have 8+E1 my 1992 is 8+C2a From 1972-76 I have both reverse type for each year. Also I am trying to confirm a cross over variant for the 1989 Proof an 8+E2, seen but not in hand to confirm. Circulation All are as yours but in addition I also have a 4th 1992 variant 5+C1 Can totally understand the eye strain bit Cheers Brian

Here is the 1984's

Great study. I am in the middle of going through Proof and BU varieties as there are definite variants including some early frosted and none frosted Proofs of the same year. I also noted that on the 1984 and 1985 circulation pennies there is a cross over of large and small beading, did you notice this while doing your study? Example showing the 1985 penny below.

I have seen quite a few of the Cu-Ni varieties now as well. Not as common as the Bronze but still quite easy to find. Appreciate you letting me know Will.

Thanks Jerry I am keeping my eyes well and truly peeled for anything VF or above, but they are definitely rarer than stated in the books without a doubt.

Hi Folks Does anyone have any idea what the 1913 F175 & F176 go for in VF +. This is my F176 at the moment, but it was even hard to find in this condition and way out of my price range in Uncirculated. Cheers

Would be very interested in seeing your article Dave. Have found a few unusual features myself. I no longer have a subscription to Coin News. Could you give me a shout when its published. Thanks

Well I have just looked at 37x1999 pennies and haven't found one like that so far. I know I have some more so will look later.

Will have a look as I still have a load bagged up.

Hi All Here is an updated chart of of my findings on the Portcullis Decimal Penny. There are variants which I haven't found but mentioned in David Grooms book. This is a continuation of my research since my article published in Coin News last year. This is circulated varieties only. Proofs and BU are a whole new ball game. Hope it is of help to some

Definitely not Pete. Yeah getting back to it, took me ages to catch up with all the posts I've missed. Some great new topics and threads may I add.?

Hi Garrett From what I have managed to find, which is very little, there were two Cutler's named Robinson in Oxford around that time. Both next door to each other. The first one listed in the late 1820's and the second in about 1847, probably father and son. However it also appears that their business finishes in the early 1850's, but will have to do a lot more digging. If this is the case, and the date stamped into my coin is correct, then it seems that the older of the two started the counter stamping advertising, quite prolifically as well. Still lots of research to do.

Thought I would revive this thread as it already has information regarding this counter marker. Here is a 1797 George III penny with the business information of Robinson's Oxford a Cutler and Razor Maker. I got this today as a pure curio. I also noted that of all the examples of this I managed to find online, I haven't seen another with a date stamped on reverse, most usually being only stamped on one side.

Just found the first 2017 with smooth area to the right of the Hologram on the rim. I have checked literally 100's, banking almost £600 worth of £1 coins for the kids group I run in the last month alone. Anyone else come across any 2017 the same?

Still waiting to be accepted onto the page. Will let you know what I find out.

Think you are definitely right about India, Paddy. Trawled through Krause 1600-1900 so far without any luck, looking at India and all its sections. Will have to have another look to see if I have possibly have missed it.

I can definitely see something there!!! and would have thought it was a 3 over 2 on that one

Hi All Trying to find out more about this tiny coin I have. It has what looks to me like a very crude elephant and people on one side, but maybe wrong. It is only approx 9 mm in diameter and looks to be bronze. Any help in identifying it would be appreciated. Thanks