Michael-Roo

If she keeps this up she'll find herself in serious trouble. Surely ebay themselves blocked the last attempt? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1847-WW-SOLID-SILVER-PLAIN-EDGE-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-CROWN-MY-GRADE-E-F-plus/123785755191?hash=item1cd234ba37:g:Jw4AAOSw9A5criZ1

As Rob says, you need to die match. We have only the date area of your coin to compare with one of the recognised variety but, even so, they don't appear to match.

marlybob1's artificially red toned repro. Unbelievable. Still no feedback on the plain edge one though.

Differences in the angle of throat and jaw are pretty obvious in those photos too.

Sir, how very dare you!

Our Ruby, warming her backside on a charging iPad.

Mother nature my arse and, even if it were so, still a £1.50 value coin.

Interesting: The gothic crown with the weird fake red toning now has a couple of bids on it, bids which just happen to be from n***y and m***f. These two played a part in knocking up the price on the previous one. Just a coincidence?

Viewing this one I couldn't help but notice a couple of others which appeared on the same page. The seller goes by the name of 'highrating-lowprice'. There's loads of it, scrap grade silver coins at ridiculous asking prices and bullion sovs at more than four times their value. They have a 20450 feedback rating of 100%. Who's buying this tat???? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Great-Britain-UK-United-Kingdom-SILVER-SHILLING-Coin-King-George-V-i71624/352526940507?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D58205%26meid%3D4f4f675b8ce548f5ac266d3bb4a86df3%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D312541682304%26itm%3D352526940507&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-UK-Great-Britain-United-Kingdom-KING-GEORGE-V-Silver-Shilling-Coin-i56707/322193503218?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D58205%26meid%3D833898e2497345c29d7643978f26f8b0%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D352526940507%26itm%3D322193503218&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-United-Kingdom-Great-Britain-GEORGE-V-Silver-Florin-2-Shillings-Coin-i69902/352513397686?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D62b1ce54af7a4ee29a1efbfd7e00f8ed%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D351779376843%26itm%3D352513397686&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1 https://www.ebay.com/sch/UK-Great-Britain/3394/m.html?item=352513397686&_ssn=highrating_lowprice

1847 WW .SOLID SILVER PLAIN EDGE VICTORIA GOTHIC CROWN MY GRADE E.F The artificially toned coin is the one being auctioned by marlybob1 on Ebay. The bright coin is the repro, honestly described as such, which mycopau sold to her for £1 last December.

It's the same repro coin, which she bought from Ebayer mycopau for £1 last December. She failed to get the money for it that time and since then, I'm told, has had another stab at artificially toning it. Ebay are onto her (thanks to Pete and others) and I doubt she'll get the money this time either. The other, with the reddish artificial toning, was originally on as a BIN but was taken down and has since reappeared as an auction listing. If you look at her feedback as a buyer you'll notice a seller of repro coins appears second on the list immediately below mycopau's comment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1847-WW-SOLID-SILVER-PLAIN-EDGE-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-CROWN-MY-GRADE-E-F/123750447136

Nice one Will.

Odd isn't it how someone selling tat plucked from change for a few pounds a pop has suddenly upgraded stock to the tune of a brace well preserved gothic crowns. A few nice 18th century coppers? Some decent bull head silver? Three or four high grade George V half crowns? Nah, straight in there with the gothics. I wonder if this second specimen has also received the ageing treatment mentioned in mycopau's ebay message about the one she bought from him. Didn't any of those bidding on the his repro bother to take a look at her other listings? If they do so since leaving their bids seeing a second has been added will surely set alarm bells ringing even for the most naive of buyers.

Oh dear. 23 bids now, and five days still to run.

To quote Francis Urquhart: 'You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment.'….

Oh well, even if your call doesn't result in the fake gothic crown being pulled then at least some good has come from it…...

Good for you Pete. Was she helpful? I see there are now 20 bids.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1847-WW-SOLID-SILVER-PLAIN-EDGE-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-CROWN-MY-GRADE-E-F/123750447136?hash=item1cd019f820:g:Jw4AAOSw9A5criZ1

In his reply to me mycopau, who sold it to her, honestly describing it as a modern restrike, for £1 last December, said this: Looks as if she has had a second attempt at artificial ageing- I suspect through one of her eBay associated sellers. Maybe a bit if shill bidding going on?

It's now up to £650 with seven bids.

Good work chaps. I see the pound coin which started out as a BIN with a price tag of one million is now at £6.50 with ten hours to go. Time to grab yourself the bargain of the century…. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONE-OF-A-KIND-MAJOR-ROYAL-MINT-DIE-SHARD-STRIKE-ERROR-2017-12-SIDED-1-COIN/123744765615

Reported, again. I suggest as many as possible here do so again too.

An interesting reply from mycopau: I did indeed sell this to the young lady in question - I also pointed out the error of her ways only to be fed with all manor of tall tails! I also informed EBay of the fraudulent listing though as per eBay norm - no action. Looks as if she has had a second attempt at artificial ageing- I suspect through one of her eBay associated sellers. More than happy to publish her details to PD members forum.

Definitely the same repro artificially aged. Surely attempting to sell these described as genuine is a criminal offence?