Colin G.

Not as bizarre as you may think, remember 1749 and 1750 were the last two dates struck before the 1754 issues, so both could easily exist theoretically. Would be interesting to see it overlaid on a 1749 farthing. There are also possibly more dies where the O has been recut. We are all aware of the obvious one, but there may be others. definitely worthy of further examination.

Not the typical 4/0 die but certainly an unusual 4..magnified pics?

@Nordle11 I wouldn't mind the green text as well

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Very nice

If someone wants to purchase a coin which has a history of being counterfeited, for example the 1934 wreath crown, with the other two TPG's you can input the number on their website and verify that the coin you are looking at is the coin in question, and that the data they hold matches. Do the same with CGS and you would now have to pay for that privilege, and whilst I suppose compared against the value of such a coin it may seem like a minor fee, it is nevertheless a fee that people would have to pay out before a purchase. It seems they have realised that administering the database is more of a burden than they anticipated, and whilst there may need to be adjustments to the way they operate due to this fact, which would be entirely reasonable, it seems that they have only considered their own perspective and not that of the people who use their services, or the dealers that have actively encouraged their services...it all seems very bizarre.

The difference with the other TPG's is that you would not have to pay to find out whether the coin is registered in their database. The whole reason for the existence of a TPG is to give the consumer comfort relating to authenticity, but not only would someone pay at the point of slabbing, but anyone who looks to buy the coin in the future would also have to pay to get the same verification...therefore the opinion is not as valid...unless someone is willing to pay twice. A fundamental flaw in my opinion

Did someone call?

Oh dear...let me set the scene, here is the coin I am selling you it is a CGS graded coin. You want to verify that it is genuine, oh well that will cost you £99 to get on to their site to verify that I am selling you an original coin, or to see the photos to compare it against. This is going to work well for people who wanted to sell CGS coins.

Glad to hear you and your family are safe Dave

The 1901 farthing is in my opinion almost UNC in terms of wear obviously it is difficult to be certain without the coin in hand. There are almost always some weaknesses across the helmet of Britannia which should not be confused for wear. With the darkened farthings that existed between 1897 and 1918, it is quite easy to mistake loss of lustre for wear, because the black lustre is missing and appears as obvious wear. However having said that 1901 is an easy date and can be picked up quite easily in similar condition without the spots (which really would limit any value the coin had) any such issues with such a common date will badly affect its value.

Be interesting to see how this one does....... @PWA 1967 you want this one as a gap filler? http://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/world-coins/george-v-penny-1933-ms63-brown-ngc-/p/3048-13001.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

Forget removing it, plate it with copper

Welcome to the forum Mick, you are in good company, plenty of knowledgeable and friendly collectors on here. As with many aspects of coin collecting there are varied opinions on every subject but I will try and start you off. Storage depends on how you want to present the coins and how often you want to view them, do you intend to show them to people or are they likely to be tucked away? Are you hoping to collect average grades or higher grade coins? These are all factors that would influence your decision. A collection of two specific years would give you a look at different coin types and would not be a bad start in my opinion because it will give you the chance to see a different range of coin types and therefore you can get a feel for what denominations take your fancy. Many will advise you be careful buying off eBay there are some bargains to be had, but they are few and far between, but it is also full of pitfalls from forgeries to cleaned/damaged coins.

Yes it would appear to be a copper pattern farthing to which someone has decided to apply gilt. Quite a scarce type as well

Doesn't ring any bells with me, I can't remember what I did last week unless I write it down! I do not seem to have any notes about them though. The ship appears to be there but very faint, which could also be an indicator of a gilt being applied post mint.

I picked it up at LCA, and it is a marginal upgrade on my own example that I have just put up for sale at that exact price, just wanted to try and see what its provenance was for my records.

Dave, I really think you and CHKY are way off here.......yes the far right might have been given a confidence booster by the leave vote, or it could just be the fact that people are trying to highlight the issue in the media to try and unsettle the decision....in fact it is probably a mix of the two by people on the extremes in both directions. However I firmly believe that the mainstream public do not have an issue with racism, hold extreme views or believe in staunch Nationalism. I live in a town where some estates could be perceived as being close to the far right and similarly there are estates where migrant communities have not integrated and isolated themselves from the mainstream community which is a shame. However again a vast majority of the people within this town live side by side with other nationalities without fear or trouble or savaging each other with hatred. Even in those communities that are on the extreme fringes there are no noticeable signs of hatred. The mindless few are getting all the attention and just need to be pushed back in their corners where they belong. Leaving the EU has nothing to do with racism or maintaining some form of pure British heritage, and the people that keep bringing the discussion down to these levels are really not helping. It is exactly this tone of conversation that risks dividing the communities that are trying to integrate, and makes people feel isolated and frustrated when they can't air their concerns without being called a bigot. Funnily enough I work in the construction industry and on a daily basis deal with a whole host of Nationalities on those sites and see how tradesmen from all nations seem to work fine side by side without tension, don't believe the hype........we are not that bad.....honest!!

I had a look but couldn't find results that far back... Thanks, I must try harder!!

Well after this original query, and a nagging doubt that John raised again when someone challenged it as being an 1823 farthing...I have done some overlays and can confirm that it is without doubt an 1823 farthing. Or should I say a damaged 3. The shape of the loop is a match when compared to an 1823, and the size of the digit is also a factor. The 5 tends to be a bit taller, whereas the horizontal cross bar correctly aligns with the 3. This only left the issue of Obverse 1 being paired with this fault, which caused a potential issue because there are no 1823 farthings that are found with Obverse 1. I had a good look through my images and it is in fact my error that led me to thinking an Obverse 1 existed, all examples are in fact Obverse 2 with incuse midribs to the leaves. I hang my head in shame A big thanks to John for pursuing the query!!

Many happy returns!!

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/watch-lazy-cow-doreens-hilarious-11541403 On a lighter note a local comedian did this video......had me chuckling, especially for those other coinies who are from the Black Country

John I have spotted the images further down in your document. I only thought there was one image at first. It appears to be Obverse 2, but feel free to email the images through and I will have a better look.

Did I miss one Peter?

I would be interested in obtaining some larger images of the coin if possible. This fault occurs across several dies and is therefore unlikely to be die fill, but a damaged punch used to cut the date. It can also be found paired with Obverse 1 and Obverse 2. Can you tell what Obverse you have?...the lowest leaves in the laurel with either have incuse midribs to the leaves or raised midribs to the leaves. As for value, it would probably do a bit better than a standard 1825 farthing in similar condition, but the difference would only be marginal. I may be interested in making you an offer or bidding on it if you are to put it up on eBay. I have a few now and really need to have a study...but another one in the pot for when that time comes wouldn't do any harm. I actually think it could possibly be a 3 that has been damaged or altered, but the fact it is paired with Obverse 2 means it was intended as a 5...need to do some overlays to be sure