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Someone needs to. From Australia you are looking like a weak country being pushed around by the EU mainly due to incompetent leadership by May who says one thing and then proceeds to do something else. When May said Brexit means Brexit her real agenda was staying in the EU at any cost. One thing that is obvious is the border between the UK and the Irish Republic is the business of the two countries NOT the EU. As for the divorce bill 29 B. Euros for what not even a trade deal, no guarantee of leaving and no input into the EU laws after "Brexit". The best deal possible? All you have is the crumbs off the table. Shame on you. I thought the UK had some pride.

Ireland, Spain, Italy, Cyprus and Portugal suffered under the Euro which was really about the EU exerting its authority. Now they are trying to shaft the UK. Pekris2 makes a point regarding the size of the UK economy .The second largest in the EU and the 5th. largest in the world. Why can't the UK stand on its own two feet as many other economies do ? Your pollies are so weak and feeble and buckle under external pressure rather than representing the interests of the people who voted for them. In our papers there were stories about shortages of food medications , even candy bars to quote some UK reports because of congestion at the channel ports. Fake News? Misinformation abounds as pointed out by the Daily Telegraph the former boss of the ports pointed out that only a small amount of trade is conducted through these ports and the East Coast ports were much more important and carried much of the traffic. In any case any responsible government would have put contingency plans in place in response to these issues rather than using this as an excuse to cave in to the EU. Even Australia makes candy bars and would only be too glad to satisfy any shortage . As for meds when I look at the ones I am prescribed most of them come from India , not a EU member. WHAT about HP sauce which is made in Holland plenty here in Australia. I am sure EU based companies will want to continue their trade with one of their most important markets as will the UK with theirs. Most of this stuff is simply scaremongering picked up by our media without question.

Thanks.

Sorry Nick. Can these posts br transferred to another topic called Brexit.

How can you abandon something you have applied for. A referendum, That's what we are going to do, apply to leave, gets difficult, Let's forget it. What a pathetic lot the UK pollies are. All the UK needs to do now is bend down and let everyone one the 27 members of the EU have a good kick and then crawl off in shame.

A clean break you have a chance to make your own future. Accept May/EUs terms more of the same with no input to the rules that govern the EU a pretty poor result or abandon Brexit where you will ignore the will of the people. The Tory government will probably fall and you will end up with a Labor government led by that maniac Colbyn. Some choice Not to say we do not have our own problems here in Australia with the likely return to a Labor government lead by Shorten an ex Trade Union official who has been involved in various controversial actions during his time with the Australian Workers Union such as ghost members, selling out his members and non disclosure of election donations. In summary I think our problems pale into insignifance compared with yours.

That's correct. However they were bestowed on Aboriginals who were of merit.

Similar items were given to trusted Aboriginals in the colonial days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_breastplate

Sorry to intrude on books again. I think Blakeyboy is correct the UK does not have a constitution. Basically 50% +1 of the votes cast is a win for a referendum therefore 52/48% is a convincing win. In Australia we had a postal plebicite on same sex marriage which was carried by a similar amount. As it happens I did not agree with it but I have to accept that it was the will of the people as was the Brexit referendum result. If 30% of the electors could not be bothered to vote (as what happens at UK general elections) you only have your selves to blame. Having said that in Australia we had a formal referendum (50% + 1 of the votes plus a majority of States under our constitution} on getting rid of the monarchy which was not carried. Now the republicans are agitating for another referendum as they did not like the previous result. They like the Brexit referendum should accept the result and make sure the will of the people is carried out. If people do not understand this it's called Democracy .

Don't blame me just answering Rob's comments.

Although I do not live in the UK I have followed the Brexit debate with interest and convinced that leaving is the best choice for the UK. However leaving under the terms May has been given beggars belief. Leaving and putting the UK into a worse position than it is at the moment by having to accept all the EU rules without any input to the making of the rules, remaining in the customs union without any foreseeable end and virtue blackmail by France & Spain over fishing and Gibraltar. Why the border between the UK and Ireland is any business of the EU beats me and should be left entirely to the two countries to work it out. Is the border between Poland and Ukraine any business of the EU? The answer is no it is a long established border as is the UK Ireland border. Who ever thinks this is the "best" the UK can achieve has a very funny idea of best. At the moment a no deal exit seems to be the BEST option even though it may cause some disruption initially. The predictions of economic by the BOE seem to be based on miss information "Fake News" rather than fact after all the UK managed to exist as a successful country prior to signing the Treaty of Rome. The UK can trade with Europe under WTO rules and adjust the pound accordingly to maintain competitive pricing. The UK can also reduce company tax to counter companies who want to leave London for Frankfurt or Paris. In fact the UK company tax rates are less than both Germany or France s I think most will stay put given the prestige and worldwide reach that London has. Leaving an organization because you do not like it only to enter the same organization under worse conditions seems madness to me. The leavers have spoken at the referendum. I know some people think it was close and many did not vote but that is normal for UK politics but if it were a general election a 52/48% win would make any political party very happy. If there were to be another referendum what would this achieve as I think you would have to reapply for membership under much worse conditions such as being forced to use the Euro, joining the Schengen zone etc. I know not everyone will agree with the above but IMO this is the situation as I see it.

It seems to me that Ebay is happy to support their sellers' attempts to defraud their buyers. I guess cavete emptor applies.

This one looks like a fake to me although I am not a crown person. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNCIRCULATED-MS-1845-Victorian-crown/312331408109?hash=item48b86712ed:g:OjQAAOSwHrlb6yM0 Its not even offered as a reproduction. Assuming I'm correct this is a deliberate case of fraud.

Ghosting, to a lesser extent can be seen on Edward bronze coins but is more pronounced on the George V 1911 - 1919 for both bronze and silver issues. Then very much reduced after 1919 until the end of the reign on bronze coins.

Was this coin slabbed and If so what was the grading?

Re the 1919 penny. Although there may be some wear on the King's ear the tip of the mo is fully struck which is something only seen on proofs of coins of this era. A really nice coin. I especially like the black toning rather than the original lustre.

Copies are against Ebay's policy "sometimes". If you read their policy all copies should be marked as such which I take as being stamped on the coin so that is cannot be removed.

Nice find. I bet someone was sorry to lose a shilling. Looking at the condition it wasn't a newly minted coin but still a day's pay for a soldier in WW1

Mr T water H2O is a polar molecule. That's what gives its ability to dissolve so many things.

You can try metho. I don't know about the UK but in Australia you can buy it without the purple dye. I find it good for cleaning and degreasing bronze and silver coins. I have never experienced any reaction between the spirit and a coin.

Tried looking for coin 812833 on PCGS verification without any luck. Is it the correct ID? My best 1920 halfcrown which I think I may have posted before but may serve for comparison with yours.

I've found when you attempt to speak to the French in their own language they suddenly gain an ability to speak English. As for the cost of the call most ISPs charge less than 5c/min to Europe for a telephone call which is pretty cheap. There is not a word for cheap in French it is moins cher (e) which translates to less dear.. Not sure why the above is underlined.

Thanks for the positive comments. There was a more serious reason for this post which goes to the accuracy of grading by TPG IMO a London Coins grading of 82 seems a little optimistic for this coin and given they both grade and trade coins puts them in a compromised position. I brought my coin on Ebay about a year ago for GBP 120 which I thought was top dollar for such a coin but as it turns out considerably less than the London Coins offering although there is a premium for encapsulation. I also note that finding a high grade 1920 florin is difficult compared with the sterling silver coins of the series. There seems to be plenty in the VF - GVF range which make me think that quite a bit of hoarding of Sterling silver coins. went on when the debased coins were issued.

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Shttp://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=retailv2_details&uin=0030923 Shows a London coin graded at CGS 82. While the attached photo show an un graded coin of the same attached image. As this is my coin and probably biased. I make the following observations. The ear of the London coin graded example is nearly fully struck. However the surface of my coin shows almost full mint lustier and in addition the upper shield on the reverse shows the 3 lions are far better struck than the London Coins CGS example. Your comments are invited.