Nordle11

Ouch. A nice cut out though!

Certainly a nice coin PWA, on both sides that is.

Interesting, thanks both. Had a quick flick back through some threads and I can see one that was an 1919kn penny with quite a big rotation on the axis, so I guess it wasn't just the London bods that had this issue.. It also ties in with what you said Jac about the mid George V pennies. I have a couple of QEII pennies with a slight rotation but it just seems like more of a slip when struck if anything.

Thanks Jac, do you know if these are spread throughout the reigns or are they confined to the 20th Century? It's a nice little error to have an example of

How common is it to have a penny with a different rotation on obv. and rev.? I've not seen many but then again I don't actively look for them, but I just picked up this one and the obverse has been rotated around 15-20 degrees compared to the reverse...

Very interesting, however from my computer it looks like someone has ground the numerals off. I can see striations under the exergue line. I'm also interested as to what the lines are that seem to be in relief on the obv. and the rev. if you know what they are? I've never seen a genuine example though so I think your guesstimate is about right Jacinbox, if not more to be honest.Here's my example, from another collector on here, however the discoloration is a sign of tampering we think...

Is that a pro or a con for you VS? Bad pictures will put you off even bidding in the first place, and a coin that's not as great in hand is such a let down, especially when you bid accordingly..

Here's a side by side of Bob's second example and mine. The loop looks to be in the same place, and the upright bar of F seems to be a little wider on Bob's example, which would be consistent with part of the upright bar in P being slightly visable and then the F wearing down to blend into the P, hence the bigger bar.

When compared to the first real example by Bob, it does seem like a smaller 'P' loop on mine, but against his second example the loops like identical in size, the serifs on the F go slightly past the P loop. But it's more concerning that there aren't any F over P examples with this die combintation. I spoke to a dealer for a second 'in hand' opinion and he believes it's dirt, after playing around with it for a while. But it's just so perfectly aligned and the dirt elsewhere doesn't give the same effect on the coin, especially as I can feel the bump where the P should be. Not sure what can be done to be 100% certain, maybe this is the first 5+E F over P example to surface...someone had to find the first in the other die combos.. Thanks all for the help as always.

Thanks BCC, so is there no known F over P for this die combination then? So... what's under that F???

He does sign off with.. "The world is full of retards. Beware!" He did warn you..

These'll probably be better..

Thanks for the comments I'm getting closer haha! Here's the obverse.. I still wonder though, if you say it's rev. E and there's no example on that reverse..

Thanks Bob, great example as well. So I can certaintly see the upright bar of the underlying P in both pictures, and an even closer picture looks OK as well- I still have doubts though

Hear hear, and I reckon your latter assumption is correct, he probably has one he wants to put up for sale soon..

Hi gents, Need some second opinions if possible please! I have this 1861 halfpenny which I think could be an F over P but just want a little clarification if anyone can help.. I've run a nib between the gaps in the bars of the F and I can feel a bump, but unfortunately these varieties are easier to spot when they wear flat. Any help is appreciated as always Nordle

Haha... 261877567523 Not only is the price silly, but the description says "..Stunning!" AND the condition is down as, "It looks like beautiful oak furniture".. OK..

Boooooo, stop dredging up old threads, you already started one and if you're just trying to promote something you're in the wrong place. Everyone here clearly already knows their stuff about coins..

Saw this too, nothing top, top grade, but a lot of nicely toned bun pennies... and a ton of sovereigns!

Exactamundo, probably why he only has the obv. image. The fact the reverse image search only brought up hits related to the guide (among ebay crawling websites) makes me think he didn't know it was actually being offered on eBay.. Edit: and thanks for the link Paulus you should start getting paid per link haha

Funnily enough the picture of the coin is also in the buying guide under "How To Evaluate Your Richard III Coins". Sorry but I can't paste links for some reason..

It probably depends on who's selling it, I bet there's a few dealers everyone knows that would be partial towards excluding that sort of information...

The re-holing is just amazing on these. You can't even tell when the picture is blown up either, you'd never have a clue with the coin just in hand..

Wow, some of those before and after pictures on his website are insane..