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	  Florins, Shillings and Misc .... on going sort out.Sword replied to Citizen H's topic in Free for all Minor double entered letters wouldn't be considered as having any significance. If would become exciting if an incorrect letter was first applied. E.g. the 1820 S over T in "SOIT" is a rarity.
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	It's somewhat debatable as to how much "mint wipe" should be penalised, if at all. I don't like it, but would grade it MS61 myself if I am sympathetic with the wiping done at the mint. If you were to ignore that (not that I would), then as there are no contact marks, the grade could be anything. It's probably something unexpected like PR64?
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	  Florins, Shillings and Misc .... on going sort out.Sword replied to Citizen H's topic in Free for all https://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=1887+Sixpence+Jeb+On+Truncation&searchtype=1&red=1 You can see some examples here.
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	  Florins, Shillings and Misc .... on going sort out.Sword replied to Citizen H's topic in Free for all The reverse design is very similar to that of the half sovereign and unscrupulous people started gold plating the sixpences to pass them off as gold coins. Hence the sixpences were "withdrawn" and replaced with new ones with "SIX PENCE" on the reverse. Some examples has the "R" of VICTORIA over another letter. "R over V" is one of the varieties due to the letter "V" being wrongly used initially and then corrected with the correct letter "R" afterwards. The other varieties being "R over B" and "R over I". They are interesting but none of the varieties are rare. I have brought an "R over B" a little while back.
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	For this coin type, it might not make much difference in price.
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	I would suggest buying some UNC George VI and George V coins from dealers / coin fairs to appreciate what top grade coins look like.
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	I am not a fan of the top coin. Yours is better struck and the top coin has some contact marks especially on the forehead. (I had a look at photos on the PGCS website). However, the top coin is more lustrous than yours particularly for the reverse.
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	Should be fine if they were brought from a reputable dealer. Gold brought 20 years ago would be a decent investment.
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	But what do you actually get as a buyer for paying this "protection"? What does Buyer Protection include? With Buyer Protection, you benefit from: 24/7 customer service: Get support around the clock if you need help. Private sellers paid after delivery: When you purchase from a private seller, payment is sent after the order has been successfully delivered. Secure transactions: All payments are encrypted end-to-end and handled by our trusted payments partners. 😂. Secure transactions are expected as the norm. Hardly something you can ask money for this century ... I won't bother commenting on the other two "benefits".
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	How is the fee calculated? When purchasing from UK-based private sellers, the Buyer Protection fee is calculated as: A flat fee of up to £0.75 per item, and 4% of the item price up to £300, and 2% of any portion of the item price from £300 to £4,000 There is a cap on the total fee amount you'll ever pay. Any portion of the item price over £4,000 will not incur any additional fee. When purchasing multiple quantities within a listing, the flat fee up to £0.75 is only charged once. https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/buying/paying-items/buyer-protection-fee?id=5594
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	The colour doesn't look realistic for gold pieces though. I hope they look a lot more yellow (like Paddy's sovereign) in real life.
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	Looks like you can remove the coin without damaging the packaging. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/167290014615?_skw=george+orwell+error+two+pounds&itmmeta=01JK6HTM6SF8PWAP23PB3D4C89&hash=item26f3430b97:g:5M8AAOSwASpnn3WI&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABAHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmvTe08BLcsHHmGCpGTD%2BuUgbAY4b0hCorVBKIHtlRdqKNfl9%2FgXD3anlOI5CVpSWF2ZLtxaEWs3jIISlK0dJaaR3%2FutQb%2BzHCRVHkmw8pKA1L%2BHnexk6sdCapAZS99KsD3uymK1ZGEg%2Bo4FWcB1MLwt2yAtoQt6Rz5WZ6QyuKjM3nz6rVLbj3pTDxyjxIW%2Bym5oagHxRlViyCOsIDNJ7Qu6BPdrDj6twE--RioTDKlRghIQ%2Fp18ahNhbpuZ4wk62iZEIMumH9KlhMWqKdkZVCyk7JSjcxMlq7FDU3tyc8HuWOeVT1MFgW8RkQrbkFo0fk%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8LD6tGZZQ
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	If the coin was minted a few years earlier, then how about: "Doublethink is useful during Partygate"
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	It's plausible that the damage was done when crudely removing a soldered loop. I think the engraving of "JACK" actually makes the item more interesting. It is a curious object rather than a collector's coin.
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	A really nice story. If it were me, I would keep the 53 in the tin. The coins are in nice circulated condition and have already lived in the tin for a long time. It's already quite a good number and I probably would not want to add more to the tin. Any new ones can go into a separate container. You always have the option of mixing them later if you so wish.
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	I just can't bring myself to spend a lot more on this "inverted 1" variety when it is now well known it is due to a filled die and so not a "true" variety. The correct thing to do is to delist it as a variety. But there is no inclination to do that of course.
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	I rather like the double florins myself but they are somewhat unloved and can be obtained significantly more cheaply than crowns. The main varieties for the 1887 is the "Arabic 1" (like you 1889) and the "Roman I". These are my examples: (1887 is the Roman and 1888 is the Arabic)
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	  1862 proof florinSword replied to david.bordeaux's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries That's the main reason I keep my coins in quadrums - in order to protect them from friction and dust. I do admit that quadrums are not so appropriate for hammered...
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	Crowns were not struck for George III until very late into his reign in 1818. The standard of striking of these crows was very high and they were delivered to banks wrapped in soft paper. Pistrucci placed his whole surname on both the obverse and reverse to indicate that he was the engraver for both. This was considered to be self indulgent and he was obliged to use just his initials B.P. in future. The St George and Dragon design became iconic but the garter belt was removed for later use. You won't be able to see it on your example due to wear, but the letters WWP (initials of the Master of the Mint) was put on the buckle of the garter. I imagine your example is worth about £100. The edge dinks would have taken the price down a bit.
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	These are honest examples. No problems with them. The edge inscription on Charles II crown reads "DECVS ET TVTAMEN ANNO REGNI VICESIMO OCTAVO". The phrase "DECVS ET TVTAMEN" was first used in 1662 and translates to "An ornament and a safeguard". The presence of an edge inscription would stop people from clipping the coins illegally to get some silver as mentioned in the above post. Hence the word "safeguard". The Charles II is perhaps worth £80. The 1892 is worth about £35.
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	Agree with the above. The details are too crude and deep.
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	If I am ever lucky enough to be able to build up a hammered collection, then I think I would concentrate on Charles I and the Tudor. Such fascinating periods of history! The usual translation of "CHRISTO AVSPICE REGNO" usually is "I reign under the auspices of Christ". Charles I very much believed in the divine right of kings, meaning that kings only have to answer to God. Like you have pointed out, this didn't go well with parliament and resulted in his execution. You might already know the legend of the Elizabeth sixpence " POSVI DEV. ADIVTOREM. MEV" which translates to "I have made God my helper" and refers to Psalm 54:4. Both coins were once bent and then straightened. This is very common with hammered coins and many reasons have been given. E.g. it was a way to detect forgery as silver bends easily, they were bent to make love tokens etc.
 
         
					
						 
					
						 
					
						 
					
						 
                    