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She should for crying out loud, think about it, her image is on more coins than any other person in history.

Along with the Irish rose and the Scottish leek.

And thus you are entitled to a title, really!

The metal these coins were struck on is not the best, I believe they broke quite frequently. I have more than a few of these myself.

It may not be worth much, but it's a thoroughly fascinating thing to find and a great talking point with the neighbours. You never know, there may be more and in better condition where that came from. Yes indeed, me wonders where that lost Noble of Richard II is hiding it's beautacious self in my fair garden?

Hello everyone and thanks for pointing this out – as Rob has noticed I have unlisted the coin on behalf of the Guest Dealer concerned. Both Andy & I try and take a look at this Forum from time to time, but if anyone spots any others that look a bit suspect, then please let us know and we will deal with them accordingly. Click here to contact us Many thanks Neelam Good show, it did indeed seem off of character for an otherwise terrific and appreciable venue for numismatic perusal.

Maybe they have utilitarian and as of yet unutilised functions, perhaps holes can be drilled and they will serve as attractive washers.

Crikes, if that thing is proof, I better pull out all my 1936's outta the bag and pawn them off on ya's, mine will set ya back only £100 per. Personally I think you can forget FDC as I believe it is a currency piece which is struggling to make UNC. If you compare the Adams 1936 proof penny lot 357 with the one for sale, there is much less hair detail. A matt proof for photographic purposes must have the same sharp detail found on a bog standard proof, otherwise why make it as a currency piece would suffice. Righto.

I wonder if the BRM would have a cow about people melting off old pennies and halfpennies, I have about £85 face in them, literally! They are residing in huge canvas bank bags. I would never melt them, there is stuff in those bags going back to William III and lots of Victorian pennies, but I imagine some of the 1967 pennies are worth more in intrinsic value than collector value now.

I wish I could find a 700 year old coin, even with a ragged edge, in my humble flower garden. I would be lucky to find a 1930's cent.

Recently in the Phillipines a group of individuals were indicted on charges of exporting current Phillipines coinage to Korea where it was melted for scrap value. Many countries have coinage circulating that has metal value in excess of it's nominal governtment appointed value.

The Royal Mint has issued a notice that the melting of coinage is an offence, and is punishable. So then you have to export the coins to be melted, an added expense, and could also be illegal.

The cent probably should have been eliminated about 10 years ago. These are useless coins with their real value only being about 1/10th of what they were valued at back 35-40 years ago due to inflation. Nowadays the only things you can find for a cent are loss leaders, like the coin operated rocking horses in supermarkets to appease the 2 yr old after a shopping trip. No gumball machine takes anything less than 25¢ now. Dimes are basically the new cents. Nickles or 5¢ coins are pretty useless. All these small coins exist more for tax reasons than anything else.

The actual bronze coins are worth more than face value and some collectors and speculators are pulling them out of circulation. However the most recent examples of all the coins you listed are now plated base metals, either steel or zinc. They are nominally worth more than face value, but not much. The others are not worth enough yet that they are actually worth the expense of melting them. I myself happen to buy boxes of cents which contain 2.500 coins, I keep all the pre-1982's which are bronze, but my main search is for pre-1965 Canadian, and pre-1959 USA cents all of which had slightly different designs. Recently I have gotten USA cents dated as early as 1919, and Canadian cents as early as 1940. I have also gotten a 2 Eurocent from Germany, a plastic play money cent and several scarcer mintmarks such as S for San Francisco. Unfortunately coin searches in the UK cannot be so exciting with the demise of the larger sized 5p and 10p coins which effectively removed the possibility of getting older shilling and florin coins including the .500 fine examples in your change. I do hear occasionally of people finding farthings in place of a 1p coin though.

Spammers come and go and so do the flaming trolls.

Now, I would love to sell at coincraft prices, but purchase at realistic!

I have read somewhere that English soldiers in Scotland during the reign of Edward I were paid 1d a day. Highly skilled labourers were paid 2d a day. Not a lot of bread could be purchased with that.

Which is interesting, because I have thought the CC cats were a bit high end on prices of coins.

Whilst you Brits are under the kippers I am awake and wishing to nuke spammers

I agree on bread being a staple commodity then and now, however factor that bread is considerably cheaper now than it was then. I pay about 50p for a loaf of bread. It is a pittance to what a worker must have paid for bread, probably a smaller loaf, back then. Food production, from growing crops to the end result was much more difficult back in the 14th century than it is now. Prices were much more consequential as a result. Even in the 1960's prices when factored by wages vs. prices of commodities were much higher than they are now in the beginning of the 21st century.

And my split on striking example, a half merk or 6/8 from the reign of James VI of Scotland. This piece is dated 1572 and is my largest Scottish coin.

One aspect of hammered coins to be considered, is that there is no one coin that is like another, they are all unique because of the manner of which they were struck. Probably one of my favourite hammered coins from Medieval Scotland, this is one of the first Groats struck in Scotland during the 1350's. From the reign of David II(1329-1371), this coin may have been used to pay ransom to Edward III after David II was released from a long captivity in England in 1356.

Check out Vcoins.com, there are many dealers on there selling bulk lots of dirty old romans for less than 50p apiece. My son got one of the filthy Romans, we worked with him, got him identified and gave him a good home.

All through history people have thought they were doing the best thing to preserve something, and ended up causing more harm than if they had just left it alone. Classical paintings are a good example of something messed with over time and then subsequently damaged. The plastics in slabs are claimed to be inert, but how they are impacted by environmental factors such as temperature, humidity etc over time may yet to be known. I have original rolls of US silver dollars from the 1880's that I put in "inert" plastics and stored in a safety deposit box several years ago, they were blast white before, now they are pink. They had gone over 120 years and stayed white until I removed them from their paper wrapper and put them in plastic.

I voted no, but of course. What does a slab do for a coin besides intomb it in possible reactive and corrosive over long term plastics? The grade that someone else assigns a coin should have nothing do with how the piece appeals to a true collector.