Paulus

All that matters is what they sell for, not what sellers (optimistically on occasion) are asking BIN or what catalogues and graders are valuing them at. A more realistic price for this coin may well be far less than is being requested and quoted, don't be put off by asking prices or catalogue values necessarily, would be my advice. There isn't always a premium because it's slabbed, at least not in the UK, although when selling on eBay I do a lot better with my slabbed coins, without a doubt! Make him an offer, through eBay or talk direct! Tip: many sellers will sell for an extra discount outside of eBay/Paypal, since that avoids seller's fees (Only do this with eBay sellers you trust!)

It is well worth making an offer, you have 3 'rejections' on eBay before you're out. I have offered less than a third of the BIN price on several occasions and had the offer automatically accepted! A-la Antiques Road Trip, but with no BBC cameras putting the pressure on! This is more unlikely to happen with slabbed coins, but bear in mind the seller will always have a 'floor' that relates to what they paid for the coin.

I have dealt with Andrew Wide several times, and as you suggest he is a pleasure to deal with. All he is doing is starting the price negotiation at the CGS valuation (which I would (normally) do too, unless I thought they had undervalued the coin, which can happen with their ultra-strict grading at times). Remember this is a BIN or best offer listing, so you can make an offer! CGS 85 being equivalent to MS 65 comes from the comparison table that both CGS and London Coins (almost one and the same) display on line and in their auction catalogues

Good for you Dan! The journey begins ...

I'd like to see the 1933 Penny ...

It would be hilarious to link the seller to this thread ... in fact I might just do that!

I feel a headache coming on! To cut to the chase I want to sell my coins without getting ripped off so want to have a fair idea of their catalogue values. This would be easy if there wasn't so much variation in value between conditions! Is there an easy way I can do this? If I started a thread and went through the collection chunk by chunk would I get good advice here? Yes you would, probably the best there is. Good pics of both sides will be the key

In terms of valuations do people pay imbetween prices, i.e. if a coin is worth £10 VF and £20 EF, would a gVF coin exchange hands for £15? A typical scenario might be £10 VF £16 GVF £28 NEF £40 EF

PM sent!

It's 'worth its weight in gold' - if genuine! Certainly not 'fantastic'!

You are a proper gent! I have a 2013 and I can get by without this year's, thanks all the same

That is an absolute disgrace, and I would have thought, a crime?

Peter you are a one off, I do need to meet you one day, I will come to the Midland when you are there!

Lol not at all, I believe these coins will get a better price if slabbed that's all, it has been borne out so far! And the premium has been way above the cost of slabbing! All part of the CGS trial really, plus I need some readies so selling them now. It's impossible to be sure given the random nature of auctions, especially eBay, but every CGS slabbed coin I have sold so far has realised more than I paid (after slabbing costs, commission (if any) and postage), whereas the others (Kew 50ps aside) have very rarely done that! I knew what these coins were and had them slabbed as part of a CGS TPG trial (see threads), some of them I am selling and so far (for mid-high grade coins) I would say there is a premium in excess of the cost of the coin submission. I will post details when the next auctions are concluded, for anyone interested. My position right now is that you will get a much better price when selling mid-high grade English Silver Coins (esp pre-George V) on eBay if they are CGS slabbed, and if you are thinking of selling it might be worth considering getting them slabbed (£80 value coins and above). My experience so far has been very clear on this, but only based on 20 or so CGS selling auctions. And Peter, I am keeping my very best coins! And I appreciate your concern, I am staying as a collector and a forum member!

They are now unleashed on the 99p start eBay auction market, for what it's worth my guesses are: 1817 £140 1821 £190 1823 £130 The fact that they are CGS slabbed should at least prevent any disasters

Just for the craic, let's have your predictions for what these will fetch on eBay 99p start no reserve?

1823 HC

1821 HC

Here are the 3 unfortunates currently sitting on Death Row: 1817 HC

I'm still recovering from ankle surgery and the cost of that plus reduced income is partly why I am selling some coins

Thanks Peter, I am looking to sell

Thanks chaps ... those CCGB prices are ridiculous! (sorry Chris! ) Edit: Chris, have you quoted F and VF prices instead?

Would someone mind posting the latest Spink prices for the following? S. 3788 1817 HC in VF and EF S. 3807 1821 HC (regular issue) in VF and EF S. 3808 1823 HC in VF and EF Thanks for any assistance!

I am sensing that this is a great time for collectors, buyers, sellers, dealers and investors, the market feels so buoyant!

A sub-£100 coin Rob going for £25k +, is that right? Like I said I have no idea, but if what you say is true that is very extreme!!!!