I'm looking Stu, it's a gaping hole in my milled silver collection, a gap I've lived with for 7 years or more wondering if I would ever fill it! It would break the budget even though I consider it to be a fair price for the grade, and despite the imperfections it ticks many of the eye appeal boxes. It's better in hand than those pics, I will take some later in the week. I still have some confusion regarding regular issue Gothic crowns such as this, are they proofs, or not? Not, according to Spink, but according to some auction and dealer listings I have been researching they seem to be graded as aFDC or FDC sometimes ...