Coinery

Inspired by @coinkat's post and some of the answers given, how would you define what makes up (for example) an Edward VII type set, to include known/documented varieties...how would you go about creating a wish list? For example (and I haven't the books to hand) how would you set out the pennies for Edward VII? Would you just go for 1 example of a penny, say 1902...oh, and maybe a Low Tide? But is that it, or do you have to ask the question about an open 3? Do you then include some of the Groom findings for a given date? Do you then have to have a normal 3? What do you do? I confess that date runs interest me, for the same reason any other collection appeals. But equally Type Sets and full monarch collections appeal. I even once thought I would collect every die example of an Elizabeth I Martlet shilling, and then move to another PM...it's essentially a completionist, probably Aspergers thing. So, just so I don't miss out on the Monarch Type Sets, how would you define one in the context of Ed7?

This is Laker bust D with PM Rose (Spink 2337E). The rose looks ambiguous on your coin, so I can see why you may have initially considered it a pansy, I would've done too. However I've found a die-match for your coin on a dealer site called Hammered Coins (picture below), which shows better detail, and confirms the PM as a definite rose. The website owner has marked this bust as Laker B (which is a typing error, but has entered the correct Spink reference in the description, identifying it as a Laker D). Roses tend to present themselves much rounder than pansies, even on worn coins...I've also included an image of a pansy for your reference. Value? I think £35ish.

Anyone attending? Did you finally decide in the end, Rob?

I do love the Davies book, I have to say!

Nice quality! Like it!

Well, I have to eat humble pie here! I had an email from Semra today, saying she'd responded to my email yesterday, but reiterated a position that was grateful and appreciative in the meantime. I checked my 'junk' folder and sure enough there was an email dated yesterday lunchtime. Sincere apologies Semra...thank-you for your extremely civil email!

I do think a standard 'many thanks for your interest in our auction. We take all emails of this nature seriously, and will be looking into the matter shortly,' would've been nice! ? I even dug out some old photographic evidence, and included their own image alongside for their easy reference! Even though I've probably saved LCA some postage and embarrassment, I will console myself instead with the knowledge that some poor buyer will not be disappointed when taking receipt of a shockingly obvious copy!

It's now been withdrawn! A brief email would've been nice, Semra? At the very least it will have saved the cataloguer, photographer, and general LC machine, from a mildly embarrassing return, surely?

Well, a very big welcome, then! ? I've only just popped my head into the forum, quite recently, after being away for some time. I guess we're both newbies in that respect! You obviously have the bug, from looking at your collection list...I think you'll have a lot of fun on here! ?

Well, hopefully this was useful? ?

Photographed by LCGS, and probably the only post of mine you will ever find here!

Yes, I know, I should let them know, really! The cut is a casting flaw that's present on all of them to a greater or lesser degree.

They still haven't spotted the error that's the hammered fake groat, lot 1709! ?

Are you sure they say 'new pence' and not 'two pence' on the back? the 'new pence' ones can be worth a few hundred quid in top condition. Of course, this also depends on what you mean by a few? Show us a lot and the market will very quickly collapse.

100% feedback, though!

Never noticed that before!

Just cast an eye over that neck mark and eyebrow to make sure there's nothing untoward. It'll have been cleaned before, but it's starting up a new tone already.

The thickness makes me think 2d, but I haven't access to a book to confirm by portrait. Regardless, you would have to walk a long mile to find an example, especially of a 2d, with rims like that! A bargain in my opinion! Clean the other coin up and chuck it on eBay to offset some of your costs! ?

Seeing your profile picture @1949threepence reminds me that, IF I had the money, I'd be buying the two aUnc '46 and '49 brass 3ds that are on sale. As it is, I will settle for my 3rd desire, which will be quite a bit cheaper I hope?

Thanks, Rob, I got thrown by this Red Herring... https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/london-coins Let me know if you plan to go! Anyone else planning to attend?

Do they still sell via 'the saleroom'? Anyone attending live?

Goodness, I so wish I had something to contribute here, but I don't know a single thing about this period, but so love reading posts about coins of this age. There's an inverted triangle with its top edge covering the 20th C period of numismatics, and the bottom point being somewhere about where you are! You've probably got less than 1% of this forum who can engage with your field, but I guess you knew that? Still love reading about these coins, as I do all coins! ?

Yes, that's true! I'm guessing they must have some other better coins in the sale too! Also @The Coinery a lot of the bulk lots are generally not photographed, Guy, you've just got to get along there, unfortunately (or should I say fortunately)!

I do love the description of 1710 "fine, dark tone, on a slightly irregular flan!" I was nearly sea sick just looking at those waves. Borderline melt pot for me, surprised it got anywhere near being catalogued as a single lot! ?

Oh, dear! LOT 1709 http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/img.php?a=cat&l=1709&f=o&s=l