Bernie

Hello Mike, Is it possible to get a clearer picture of the reverse from the letter ? please.

Went yesterday, some really lovely coins there, but they are getting very expensive !

I thought that I was losing it !! I was about to eat my hat !

Are you sure that this coin is obverse 4 ?? can you see L.C.WYON below the bust ?? the outer ribbon also appears thinner. The toothed border is thinner. Are you sure it's not obverse 5 ??

Beautiful coin !!

Good provenance, definitely ex Bamford, Michael Freeman did own the ex C W Peck coin. Laurie Bamford won many of MJF, coins. Well done !

Sorry to hear that you got sniped ! I am feeling worse than you.....Did I miss something of significance ?

Hello Bob, The 8 in the date appears to be over something. The left hand side of the 8 appears to be filled, very much like 1861, 1862 overdate pennies.

My gambles usually fail, any chancers here ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WCA-British-One-Penny-1863-978-/311671061512?hash=item48910afc08:g:-acAAOSwdzVXpjkx

I am not very familiar with farthings. I just cannot recall seeing a British copper coin dated 1830, is it rare Paulus ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1830-GEORGE-IV-COIN-ITEM-1803-/162155588592?hash=item25c139ebf0:g:qVUAAOSwaB5Xn52C

I believe that the Freeman 2 Gold proof was sold to a Japanese collector. I believe the auction hammer was £6000, Auctioned by Spink, June 1987. I did hear that the coin was once in the Royal collection.

I was the lucky buyer. I too have lost many coins in the past through hesitation. At one time I had to be very selective in which coins to buy. They were turning faster than I could earn the funds to pay for them.

Yep. A real Gentleman, In the distant past dealt in High grade extremely rare coins, many British.

"nice chap".......Bruce !

Thank goodness he hasn't got any coins that I am looking for. They might as well be trapped in the British Museum ! Lovely coins though.

It is most probable that one of the two Mint currency coins was the unmentioned seventh, a currency coin apparently first appeared in a Glendinning auction in 1969. The Royal Mint now have only one example in their collection. A currency coin was said to have been given by the mint to Laurie Asher Lawrence in 1933-4. This is not mentioned in the Letter above. I have tried to obtain the information from the Royal Mint regarding the disposal of their second coin, but have had no reply. There are six known examples plus the one stolen from the "Church of St. Cross, Middleton Leeds, presumably a Proof coin. Charles F Barrett, who made an annotation on 10 May 1934 that “seven examples exist, one of which is not traceable at current time

This is what I believe happens if late bids are made just before auction ends. Only bidders that were bidding on the coin before the auction ends can make offers for the particular coin after auction end time. these bidders will be informed of the highest bid and will be expected to inform CC when they have made their final bid. The auction on the particular coin will end after the highest uncontested bid is made. If only one bid is made on a coin at lower estimate at 23:59 the coin will be sold to that bidder. Sometimes bids for some coins may continue for days after auction time ends. Offers can then be made on any unsold lots, possibly the owner of the coins may accept below estimate offers.

Hello Dave, I also can't recall seeing a High grade example of this variety. Mine is about the same grade as yours.

Another thing, why is the coin worn, if it were struck that size, I am certain that someone early in its life would have noticed it and it would have been kept in better condition. It would not have fitted in any chewing gum machines !

The trident shaft is not as doubled where it touches the leg.

It appears that the centre area of the reverse is not doubled.

I notice that the reverse was shown previously. My theory, any better ideas ? I guess that the original coin was squeezed in a press, then cooled, a disc of harder metal was heated red hot and placed between the reverse of the penny and the press. pressure applied to make an impression in the harder disc. The penny was reheated and placed again between the press, The now cold hard disc was included but had revolved slightly from its original position. pressure applied causing a somewhat doubling of the reverse. Something along those lines, I would think.

A picture of the reverse may reveal something.

This coin that I once owned must take the biscuit !