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Yes I know everything is subjective and I know a lot of people on here don't like TPGs as it is, but I'd like to really start a rogues gallery of some of the grading from TPGs that's doing the rounds. I've just spotted this and it pains me as I have a much nicer 1887 crown slabbed as MS63, this one is MS64 and I'm shaking my head at how people have become so reliant on them yet what they are giving grades to is utter sh*t. Standards have dumped a lot. Bring back LCGS So here's an MS64 1887 Crown slab number 6271095001

I'm still scratching my head where the $10k plus comes from on their price. Do they do a roulette wheel with various numbers on and give it a whirl? Genuinely @AtlasNumismatics enlighten me how you come by your ticket price....Surely the cleaning, imaging and slabbing doesn't cost that much, maybe 100-150 dollars?

Agreed 100% with your last sentence.

Jon Blyth does this same shit. Pumps up the lighting on the slabbed coins making them look like mirrors, just check the label number for another representation of the coin.

There seems to be a whole lot of problems going on with conservation over at NGC. Those who collect modern silver proofs are having their coins come back after conservation with black marks or spotting that weren’t there when sent for grading. NGC as we know take no liability for any damages to a coin, so they’ve already washed their hands of the issue. My best answer to the problem is why conserve a 2022 proof coin anway? My YT friend always tells or told his sheep to get them conserved as he was making a whole pile of money, he would charge upfront and keep the money even if they weren’t conserved, the fools who sent him the coins always thought that if they paid their money then it was automatically conserved, but if conservation was required it was down to the opinion of NCS and not the YouTuber, that’s how he was buying many nice older coins. 😉 Fools and their money, and they still seem to trust him 🥸 Coin collecting has become a very dirty game for those who wish to make a killing.

You could maybe send it to PMG or the equivalent body for grading and authenticity, at least it will give you peace of mind whether its real or not as its probably outside the realms of most of our knowledge here. Alink to some notes here on ebay https://www.ebay.com/b/PMG-20-US-Confederate-Currency/3414/bn_54249599

You'll have to ask the person who wrote the post from where I found it that question, as stated, I didn't write it, I just copied and pasted it.

I mentioned at the end of the post that it came from elsewhere, it also says Rishi Sunak' wife at the beginning, there was no mention of a third party integrated into the marriage. Also, you mention that Labour would have made mistakes, but that's theory only as they weren't in power during the lockdown. How do we account for the billions to friends of MPs paying for PPE at hyper inflated prices at the expense of the taxpayer? Also Boris' lies about the 25 parties he held while everyone else had to stay away from their loved ones during their dying days?

His wife

So... it now comes to light that Rishi Sunak's wife was part owner of Lava Mayfair Club Ltd (a private membership gym), which collapsed last year owing almost £44million to creditors, including £374,000 to HMRC! Another of Mrs Sunak's ventures... Mrs Wordsmith (an education business) went into administration last year owing £16.3million – after receiving a £1.3million loan from the Government's "Future Fund"! OH IT GETS WORSE... Digme Fitness (which she owns 100% of) received up to £635,000 of furlough money... before it then closed its eight studios in London and Oxford... still owing HMRC £415,000! So .... Mr Sunak introduces the furlough scheme ... and the woman he's sleeping with benefits by up to £635,000! Mr Sunak oversees the rules regarding Non-Dom status ... and the woman he's sleeping with benefits by over £20 million! Mr Sunak is in charge of ensuring that the UK maximises its tax revenue... yet the woman he's sleeping with has been active in, or has owned, companies going bust owing a staggering £789,000 to HMRC! Found this elsewhere

This was with the phone

Don't forget and try and get some pics. I have clouds here so probably won't see a damn thing myself

Should be a pretty cool sight if you have clear skies and catch it rising.

Let’s see if they get it right this time Please send the coin to us, for a free of charge review in US. Please write on the submission “Grader Review as per Anna, April 14, 2022” You may also add ATTN. ANNA

Google has a translator Rob. https://translate.google.de/?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=ru&op=translate

Yeah I noticed. I had my eye on the 1689 Halfcrown but decided against it in the end.

I think most of these types of coins are more speculative investors rather than collectors. I see the same thing with dealers, buying at X and then just doubling their buying price as their selling price. Buyers, or those who don’t do their homework a little are the ones paying the silly prices.

I’ve just mentioned this elsewhere, but maybe the more conservative coin collectors on here could be out of touch with pricing.

Let’s also not forget that Blojo didn’t let the security and intelligence report on Russia to be published, coincidence? I think not.

Apparently MS 64 costs €1900 plus juice happened lol. I didn't buy it, I was watching.

Sunak being the Chancellor had a conflict of interest. Lets go back a little though, the Tory party has been funded by Russians, in 2007 a Russian ex banker Lubov Golubeva makes her first donation to the Tory party, she is the partner of Vladimir Chernukin, Putins former deputy finance minister, they own multiple companies through shell. 2008 Blojo is elected mayor of London, in 2009 former KGB spy Alexander Lebedev buys the London Evening standard and appoints his son Evgeny as senior Executive director. In 2010 Blojo and Evgeny get friendly, in 2012 The Evening standard publicly back Blojo for the Mayor of London campaign (just a coincidence, right?) The year Blojo wins that election, he stays for free at lebedevs Italian castle (something he'd do every October for 5 years afterwards) In 2016 MI6 expresses concern about Lebedev, Blojo was made aware of the concerns, but remains close friends with him. Lebedev in a tweet speculates that Alexander Litvinenko may have been murdered by MI6. In 2015 Lebedev pushes the UK to ally itself with Putin in Syria, Blojo then writes a Telegraph column saying "Lets deal with the devil, we should work with Putin in Syria" Chemical weapons were deployed during that time" In 2016 Lebedev attends a private dinner with Blojo at his family home in Islington along with Michael Gove, its the night that they both decide to back Brexit. The same year Blojo says that the EU provoked the Russian invasion of Crimea. 2018, Skripal and his daughter are poisoned on the streets of Salisbury. Lebedev has now a peerage.......Yeah, British politics and the Tory party are not in it for themselves, they've sold Britain to the Russians and sold contracts to their mates and make sure their family are taken care of, and screw the British public. All of that info is easily obtainable should you need to fact check it......

If you think that's bad.........Are we on here out of touch with prices?

The reliance on a so called influencer who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow has pushed the modern coins to such levels of greed that those who trust what he says are now finding out he was just shilling coins he bought so he could sell off at hyper inflated prices to buy the numismatic coins. Some people never learn, yet they still trust him and flock to his YT channel. Fools and their money are soon parted as we are now seeing from the recent dump in modern coin prices, and not before time.

A Churchill got £800 in MS65 grade at Baldwins just a few months ago. Ridiculous

NGC are here in Munich